Canada's Economy gets Downgraded

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Because of Oil.

Canada’s 2015 Economic Growth Forecast Downgraded by OECD - WSJ
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TORONTO—The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development has downgraded its forecast for growth in Canada for the second time this year and now expects its economy to grow by about 1.5% this year, as the fall in oil prices results in declines in business investment and GDP.

The research and policy-coordination group says, in its updated economic outlook for all its 34 members, it expects growth in Canada to rise to 2.3% in 2016 as exports in other sectors expand in response to the depreciation of the Canadian dollar and stronger foreign-market growth.

In March, the OECD downgraded its growth forecast for Canada in 2015 to 2.2%, from 2.6% in November 2014. Its new 2.3% forecast for 2016 is slightly higher than its 2.1% forecast in March.

Oil is Canada’s biggest export, and the fall in global oil prices has had a substantial negative impact on its economy. Statistics Canada reported on Friday that Canada’s gross domestic product declined by 0.6% in the first quarter.

The Bank of Canada and the country’s federal government have taken the view the economy will rebound in the second half of the year, helped by increasing demand from the U.S. for Canadian exports and increased consumer spending in response to lower gasoline prices.

The OECD expects, as does Canada’s central bank, that a shift toward non-energy exports will support a subsequent strengthening in business investment.

It also sees Canada’s heavily indebted consumers continuing to make a contribution to growth. “Following recent weather-related weakness, consumption growth should pick up,” the OCED says.

The OECD says high household debt and house prices pose financial-stability risks, and further macroprudential measures, such as tightening of mortgage borrowing rules may be required should these risks increase.

It expects the Bank of Canada will begin raising interest rates in early 2016 to counter inflationary pressures. Canada’s consumer-price index was at 0.8% on an annual basis in April, below the Bank’s 2% target. Core inflation was at 2.3%.

The OECD says business investment stands in Canada above prerecession levels, but that partly reflects the expansion of the oil and gas sector in recent years.

“[Investment] plans have been pared back with the fall in oil prices,” it says.

Canada’s 2015 Economic Growth Forecast Downgraded by OECD - WSJ
 

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It's okay bros.

Go back to your cave of blissful denial.

This never happened and this article doesn't exist.
 

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It's mostly going to the toilet due to Lieberal economics in Ontario. Usually when its a downturn for Alberta, Ontario goes on the up. But fiscal mismanagement by Wynn & co has kind of put a damper on that.
 

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Canada’s economy shrinks for first time in four years as oil shock sinks in
 

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What a horrible burden to be stuck with so much of that black, stink, gooey, oily stuff. Our economy would soar like a rocket if we didn't have any of that aweful muck, eh?
 

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Our economy would be more reliable if we weren't propping up one industry.
 

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Our economy shifted to rely on oil.

The former head of Bank of Canada and economist, Mark Carney, was one of the main spokespersons for this model. He's actually a pretty smart guy, but his assumption that oil prices would always remain high (as part of this model) was dead wrong.
 

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Nobody, except everybody saw it coming.


Terence Corcoran: The Canadian economy: Nobody saw it coming

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Terence Corcoran
Wednesday, Jan. 28, 2015


Few embraced high oil prices as firmly and enthusiastically as the Bank of Canada. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jeff McIntosh

Did the Bank of Canada and economists become over-invested in oil?

I didn’t see a thing

I wasn’t looking

I just walked into it

Sucker for it, I’m a sucker

Thought I was so cool

She saw me coming

Boy did I get screwed

From “She Saw Me Coming,” track #7 on The Rolling Stones’ 2005 album, A Bigger Bang.

Sometimes it looks like the Canadian economy is unraveling like a giant surprise package right in the face of economists and the Bank of Canada. We’ve got big data revisions, shock bank rate cuts, a falling Canadian dollar. Through it all, nobody saw it coming. They didn’t see a thing.

Statistics Canada’s labour force data are notoriously wonky and revision prone. Still, Wednesday’s revamp wiped out 50,000 jobs that economists had assumed had been created during 2014. In an economy with almost 20 million employed, the revisions are small, but they cast doubt on the state of the economy and the outlook for 2015. Institutional economists who did not see it coming now see the labour data as a sure sign the Bank of Canada will lower interest rates again in March.

Down in the U.S., meanwhile, the Federal Reserve bubbled with optimism. It said economic activity has been “expanding at a solid pace” with “strong job gains and a lower unemployment rate.” Best of all, “business fixed investment is advancing,” the Fed said in a statement Wednesday. Some economists say the Fed may raise interest rates later in the year.

With Canada-U.S. employment, investment and interest rates running in opposite directions, the fallout was inevitable. The Canadian dollar fell below 80 U.S. cents amid a consensus that 75 cents seems inevitable.

BMO Chief Economist Douglas Porter commented as he watched the dollar fall: “Just two short years ago to this day, the Canadian dollar was within a cent of parity, back in the days when oil was trading in the mid-90s and a fellow named Carney was still BoC Governor. Given Wednesday’s latest spillage, the currency has promptly shed 19.5% in that two-year span. That is the largest two-year decline in the Canadian dollar ever.”

For this decline in value, added Mr. Porter, “there will be consequences.”

What went wrong for the Canadian economy? What explains this sudden turn in fortunes that nobody saw coming — even the Bank of Canada? Many explanations are possible, although one stands out as more likely than others. Until this month, Bank economists seemed particularly convinced that Canada was and would remain an oil nation. Until recently, the idea that oil prices might fall rarely if ever appeared in Bank statements and commentaries.

The Bank of Canada, initially under former Governor Mark Carney, had been unabashed oil hawks. For years, the Bank had become heavily invested in the idea that high commodity prices are “unambiguously” good for the Canadian economy. It’s a claim that may be true under one scenario — when high prices stay high — but weakens when prices turn sharply downward and threaten to stay down for a long period.

Did the Bank blow it? There’s some evidence supporting that conclusion.

Few embraced high oil prices as firmly and enthusiastically as the Bank of Canada

Few embraced high oil prices as firmly and enthusiastically as the Bank of Canada. None had as much influence in convincing Canadians across the land — from politicians to industry leaders, to bankers and labourers — that $100-a-barrel oil and soaring commodity prices lifted the national economy to new highs.

The peak of that influence came in September 2012, when Mark Carney, then governor of the Bank of Canada, delivered a speech at a Spruce Meadows Round Table session in Calgary that aimed to demolish the claim that Canada might be suffering from so-called Dutch Disease. Under Dutch Disease, the high Canadian dollar, then at par with the U.S. dollar, was alleged to be ruining other sectors of the economy, especially manufacturing in non-energy regions which could no longer compete because their U.S. prices were too high.


Canada was settling in to a new world of high oil prices, but then came the plunge. DAVID BOILY/AFP/Getty Images

Terence Corcoran: The Canadian economy: Nobody saw it coming
 

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The danger is off set in that the CO2 is pushed out ove 1M sq miles of material that eats CO2 for breakfast. If you get dinged for letting off CO2 then you should get a payment for having something that takes it out of the air and in that respect the swamps of take out many times what Syncrude produces. The sin of Syncrude is the product they make is the most expensive and least useful from the raw material. The First Nations should be looking at non-evasive uses, such as lining the ditches and driveways in their settlements.
The part that should not be lost is that these companies that operate in places where they don't live tend to be the worst polluters on the planet, all in the name of saving the shareholders a few pennies. Dig around enough and the pollution will really start to show up and CO2 would be a blessing. The attraction of the place is the carbom in the form of soot that in the raw product as that makes the best lubricant. Soot is easy to produce as you can do it with a candle so it isn't like it is unique to the planet.

It is standard policy in Alberta that when an oil company with ground assets is sold and bought it is the buyer that does the clean-ups should any be needed. Well sites 50 years old are being taken apart to get rid of the chemicals that should not have been left behind in the first place.

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It is also one of the single biggest source sites of the carbon pollution that is choking the planet.




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From 1972 until 1992, the U.S.-based Texaco Corporation spearheaded oil production activities in the Ecuadorian Amazon. They guided exploration activities, built roads and a trans-Ecuadorian pipeline, which runs from the oil town of Lago Agrio to the port city of Esmeraldas. These two decades of oil extraction and production have resulted in levels of environmental contamination and destruction which are shocking even to a generation accustomed to hearing about the acts of atrocity and imperialism committed by U.S. and multinational corporations throughout the world. After exploiting the majority of Ecuador's oil reserves, Texaco intentionally left behind an environment contaminated by over three hundred unlined oil pits, which are full of toxic and carcinogenic wastes. These pits-and the commonplace occurrence of oil spills-were led to contaminate rivers, streams, and ground water. They also left an entire population ridden with chronic and acute illnesses, including cancer, in a population where it was previously nonexistent, and children born with genetic deformities. For all of this, Texaco has refused to claim any responsibility.

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All the equal money changed is which way the most people were going across the border to do some shoppingon the weekends. I'm assuming on-line shopping has ended that party.
 

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Bbbbut what about dutch disease and how the mfg sector would come storming back when oil fell? What happened Flossy?... Why not the record exports you predicted that would cure the Cdn economy?

You got some esplainin' to do


You've got some serious dementia.

Worse than petros'.

I would suggest you look up prior thrashings to alleviate that.
 

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Lets see. A group of foreigners is overly optimistic about Canada's economy before it happens and for their own purposes. Now they have been proven to not know what they are talking about so they come up with more realistic figures and call it downgrading. Sound about right?

Our economy isn't propping up just one industry. Only Alberta and Newfoundland rely on oil revenues so heavily. That's about 1/8th of the country.

He is talking about the what is left of automotive manufacturing in Ontario.