Sister of slain soldier delivers emotional appeal for C-51

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Louise Vincent, sister of Patrice Vincent, says Bill C-51 could have prevented her brother’s death in an emotional appeal to parliamentarians.

OTTAWA—The sister of Warrant Officer Patrice Vincent says the Conservatives’ controversial new terrorism law may have prevented her brother’s death.

Appearing before the Commons’ committee studying Bill C-51 Monday night, Louise Vincent said that the legislation may have prevented Martin Couture-Rouleau from murdering her brother in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu.

“If C-51 had have been in place on the 19th of October, Martin Couture-Rouleau’s relatives would have warned the RCMP and they would have had more information,” Vincent said.

“Because of the lower evidence threshold (in C-51) . . . most probably Martin Couture-Rouleau would have been in prison, and my brother would not have been killed.”

Conservative MPs have repeatedly invoked last October’s attacks in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu and the shooting on Parliament Hill as justification for the proposed expanded spy powers, although MPs have been hard-pressed to say specifically how C-51 would have prevented those attacks.

The bill gives the Canadian Security Intelligence Service the ability to “disrupt” threats to national security, including, but not limited to, terrorist threats. Perceived threats to Canada’s economic stability, critical infrastructure or diplomatic relations would also be fair game for spies.



Couture-Rouleau, allegedly after been refused a passport to travel abroad, ran down Vincent with his car on Oct. 19. Police admit Couture-Rouleau was on their radar before the attack, but they had insufficient grounds to detain him.

Serious concerns about C-51 have been raised by opposition parties, witnesses before the committee, and organizations such as the Canadian Bar Association. Chief among the criticisms have been a lack of civilian oversight of Canada’s spies, as well as the possibility of intelligence agencies targeting civil society.

Speaking before the committee, former Progressive Conservative Sen. Hugh Segal reiterated his call for greater oversight. Segal, now the master of Massey College, also warned against giving CSIS the ability to violate Canada’s Charter rights.

“Attempts to keep Canadians safe, the number one job of any government, should not include provisions that make us resemble what we are struggling to defeat,” Segal told the committee.

The committee will continue to study the bill this week, before moving to an in-depth technical reading with proposed amendments later this month. It’s not clear what, if any, amendments the majority Conservatives will consider.


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I don't care if it would have saved his life. We're safe enough already. It's liberty that is more the isue at this juncture.
 

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The basis of this bill is two incidents of crazies running amok and nothing to do with terrorism. Harpo is the one who tried to make it about terrorism. All I can say is this woman fell victim to Harpo's propaganda, Somebody should whack Harpo's pee pee for lying and spreading hysteria. The bozo is a closet terrorist.
 

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If they are peaceful law abiding protestors what do they have to worry about?

Don't break the law.





The CONS want to redefine what the 'laws' are, thereby turning such protestors into offenders.


You really should read up on the Bill.






It was a moving moment. The sister of the murdered soldier Patrice Vincent testifying before committee studying Bill C-51.

But it also symbolized the ghastly way the Cons are running the hearing. For they will not hear from the Canadian Bar Association or the Privacy Commissioner.

But they will turn it into a star chamber, and demand to know whether those testifying are with them or the terrorists.

And they will appeal to emotion rather than reason. (link is external)








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http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/133395-canadian-bar-association-also-thinks.html
 
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If they are peaceful law abiding protestors what do they have to worry about?

Don't break the law.

Bit of a non sequitur. The thing is, if they are peaceful non-law-abiding protestors, they may well be breaking the law, but it does not follow that tehy are terrorists.

Civil disobedience does not equal terrorism. No need to be so frightened.

It doesn't matter much anyways, because (a) the Supremem Court will toss this law and (b) CSIS operates in the dark so they'll go ahead and do what they please anyways.

The liberertarian me has never really bought the line about "as long as you are doing anything that we say is wrong, you've got nothing to worry about" government style.
 

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The CONS want to redefine what the 'laws' are, thereby turning such protestors into offenders.


You really should read up on the Bill.

It was a moving moment. The sister of the murdered soldier Patrice Vincent testifying before committee studying Bill C-51.

But it also symbolized the ghastly way the Cons are running the hearing. For they will not hear from the Canadian Bar Association or the Privacy Commissioner.
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But they will turn it into a star chamber, and demand to know whether those testifying aref with them or the terrorists.

And they will appeal to emotion rather than reason. (link is external)

and

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/133395-canadian-bar-association-also-thinks.html


Don't break the law. Simple