Trudeau supports doctor assisted suicide ruling for personal reasons

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Justin Trudeau supports doctor-assisted death ruling because of his experience with his father

Justin Trudeau says he personally believes the Supreme Court of Canada was right to strike down the ban on doctor-assisted death.

The Liberal leader says his own view is based on his experience when his father, former prime minister Pierre Trudeau, was dying.

Trudeau has in the past confirmed that his father, who had also been diagnosed with early stage dementia, chose not to receive treatment for advanced prostate cancer.

Trudeau says he’s well aware not everyone shares his view on assisted dying and parliamentarians have a duty to hear from all sides as they attempt to craft a new law.

The court has given Parliament 12 months in which to draft a law that recognizes the right of clearly consenting adults who are enduring intolerable physical or mental suffering to seek medical help to end their lives.

Trudeau has moved a House of Commons motion calling for creation of a multi-party committee to consult Canadians and experts and to draft the outlines of a new law by the end of July, although the Conservatives say they’ll vote against it because they intend to launch their own consultations soon.

Justin Trudeau supports doctor-assisted death ruling because of his experience with his father
 
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What tune is the bandwagon he jumped on playing? Why on Earth should this be rushed through Parliament? What happens when things are rushed?
 
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what does pierre trudeau wanting to die of cancer have to do with doctor-assisted suicide? he just wanted it to get him before the dementia kicked-in. so what.
 
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Four-in-five Canadians (79%) favour allowing physician-assisted suicide in Canada under the conditions stipulated by the Supreme Court of Canada, with only 15% being against the move, a new Canada-wide Insights West poll has found.

In February, the Supreme Court ruled unanimously that a law that makes it illegal for anyone to help a person die should be amended to allow physicians to provide assistance if two conditions are met:

1) If the request is made by a competent adult person who clearly consents to the termination of life.

2) If the person has a grievous and irremediable medical condition (including an illness, disease or disability) that causes enduring suffering that is intolerable to the individual in the circumstances of his or her condition.

The Supreme Court gave federal and provincial governments 12 months to craft legislation to respond to its ruling, but it is not clear if Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s month old Liberal government will be able to meet the deadline.

Support for allowing physician-assisted suicide in the country, while meeting the two Supreme Court guidelines, is highest in British Columbia (90%) and among Canadians aged 55 and over (87%), the poll found.

Government house leader Dominic LeBlanc announced that a new joint committee of MPs and senators will be appointed to provide the Canadian Parliament with recommendations for legislation on physician assisted suicide, but Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould has hinted at the possibility of requesting for an extension to give Ottawa more time to develop new rules.

The charity Dying With Dignity Canada has made repeated calls for the federal government to rule out asking the Supreme Court to delay the implementation of its ruling.

“Nine months after the Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional, the old law continues to drive some Canadians to seek assisted dying overseas,” DWD Canada CEO Wanda Morris said in late October. “It compels others to end their own lives at home, prematurely and sometimes in a violent manner. We ask our new government to lead with compassion to ensure that Canadian patients no longer have to take drastic measures to die on their own terms.”

Four-in-five Canadians favour allowing physician-assisted suicide in Canada | ThinkPol
 
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So the problem is that the SCC ruling has made it very clear that there are only 2 criteria to be met. The liberal bill is highly restrictive placing a lot of those who wish to end their lives on the outside. Alzheimer's patients will not meet the legislation because it doesn't allow them to decide while able and have their wishes carried out later. There is no provision for those under 18. No provision for mentally ill. No provision for disabilities. In fact the bill basically narrows the scope so much that it is laughable. This bill requires 15 more days of suffering for 'reflection' and the doctor must state death is imminent. I hope the bill fails to meet the deadline and no extension is granted so the SCC ruling, with its 2 simple requirements is left to be the law.
 
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PoliticalNick said:
So the problem is that the SCC ruling has made it very clear that there are only 2 criteria to be met. The liberal bill is highly restrictive placing a lot of those who wish to end their lives on the outside. Alzheimer's patients will not meet the legislation because it doesn't allow them to decide while able and have their wishes carried out later. There is no provision for those under 18. No provision for mentally ill. No provision for disabilities. In fact the bill basically narrows the scope so much that it is laughable. This bill requires 15 more days of suffering for 'reflection' and the doctor must state death is imminent. I hope the bill fails to meet the deadline and no extension is granted so the SCC ruling, with its 2 simple requirements is left to be the law.
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You should be happy for elbowgate then. Without it your wish would have been less likely.
 
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Angstrom said:
You should be happy for elbowgate then. Without it your wish would have been less likely.
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I am. Everyone should be if they believe in the right to die with dignity. Any legislation that restricts this right beyond the SCC ruling will be challenged at great length and expense because it will disenfranchise someone or some group and the challenge will probably win sending it back to parliament for another try. The process will take years, if not decades to be settled and all the while people that should be able to pass on in their own way won't be able to.

The one thing this while situation does do which is a small positive for me is make it clear that the constitution IS the law, the SCC determines the law and parliament mereley makes legislation that restricts our rights under the law.
 
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The process will take years, if not decades to be settled and all the while people that should be able to pass on in their own way won't be able to.
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So if the law isn't passed everyone will live forever? Who knew Turdoh had such power. Must be the hair.
 
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PoliticalNick said:
I am. Everyone should be if they believe in the right to die with dignity. Any legislation that restricts this right beyond the SCC ruling will be challenged at great length and expense because it will disenfranchise someone or some group and the challenge will probably win sending it back to parliament for another try. The process will take years, if not decades to be settled and all the while people that should be able to pass on in their own way won't be able to.

The one thing this while situation does do which is a small positive for me is make it clear that the constitution IS the law, the SCC determines the law and parliament mereley makes legislation that restricts our rights under the law.
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Maybe we should have someone manage and fix that massive cluster **** of laws that contradict one another before moving forward.
 
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Walter said:
So if the law isn't passed everyone will live forever? Who knew Turdoh had such power. Must be the hair.
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Actually if they dont pass any legislation by the deadline then we all have the right with only the restrictions in the supreme court ruling which are "a competent consenting adult" with "a grievous and irremediable disease".

Edit: Notice they don't say terminal. There is going to be a fight because Trudeau's bill limits it to 'foreseeable death'

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Maybe we should have someone manage and fix that massive cluster **** of laws that contradict one another before moving forward.
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Wishful thinking!
 
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mentalfloss said:


Justin Trudeau supports doctor-assisted death ruling because of his experience with his father

Justin Trudeau says he personally believes the Supreme Court of Canada was right to strike down the ban on doctor-assisted death.

The Liberal leader says his own view is based on his experience when his father, former prime minister Pierre Trudeau, was dying.

Trudeau has in the past confirmed that his father, who had also been diagnosed with early stage dementia,
Justin Trudeau supports doctor-assisted death ruling because of his experience with his father
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I kind of thought old Pierre may have been suffering with early stage dementia when he became P.M. in 1968.
 
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PoliticalNick said:
There's rumours Reagan couldn't do anything without a script near the end of his presidency.
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Could be more than just rumours, Nick. But Reagan was smart enough that very few people knew for sure. O.T.O.H. given that a general rule of thumb says people with dementia on average die within 10 years of onset & Reagan lasted a good 15 years beyond his terms I guess we'll never know for sure. Maybe I should have typed my last post in purple!
 
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