Harper provoking Arctic conflict

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Well that's one way to fabricate demand for expensively unnecessary jets.


Putin gets payback for Canada's anti-Russia stance

As Prime Minister Stephen Harper was pouring vitriol and sanctions on Russia for months over the Crimea and Ukraine crisis, he did not seem to have expected much of a serious slap-back from President Vladimir Putin.

While Ottawa joined other allies to punish Russia, using sanctions, criticism and even a modest arms buildup in eastern Europe, Harper’s team always appeared the most determined to “tweak the Bear."

Even sensitive relations carefully built up between Canadian and Russian militaries since the end of the cold war were put back on ice, including crucial ones needed to avoid friction in the Arctic, where both nations have major interests.

This caused some nervousness within defence and foreign affairs circles, but early in the crisis, Harper, according to a Globe and Mail report, tended to play down risks that conflict between Ottawa and Moscow “could spill over into the Arctic.”

That seemed to badly underestimate Putin’s sense of the strategic counter-punch.

Just as many feared, Canadian F-18s are yet again being sent screaming towards our northern airspace to see off large Russian Tu-95 heavy bombers testing our borders.

We don’t know precise numbers – much secrecy is retained to avoid alerting Moscow to all we know – but there have been at least two interceptions this month and Russian patrols near North American borders have clearly increased this year.

The word in official circles is that this is “strategic messaging from Moscow” in retaliation for our constant criticism, as well as Canada’s actions to bolster the Ukraine, which has just signed an historic trade pact with the European Union that Putin has fought against.


The fly-overs have certainly shaken complacency in Ottawa. Defence minister Rob Nicholson told Parliament recently the flights show “the need for ongoing vigilance” as Russian military activity continues in the Arctic.

Ottawa didn't anticipate payback
What’s surprising is our surprise. Ottawa did not seem to anticipate such retaliation, even though Russian air probes are an easy and cost-effective way for Putin to harass our defences as payback for our anti-Putin stand in Europe.

This is not to criticize the Harper government’s strong stand over Crimea and the Ukraine, which has much to recommend it, but rather to suggest we tend to underestimate the full cost a wily opponent will seek to make us pay.

The Russians have wasted no time rubbing it in. Aubrey Grebenshikov, second secretary of the Russian Embassy in Ottawa, says that Canadian and Russian militaries used to be able to work out such “misunderstandings” like those over Arctic intentions and sovereignty but, unfortunately, Canada on its own eliminated these important links.

“Regretfully, due to the crisis in Ukraine,” he told the Globe and Mail, "the Canadian government has recently frozen all contacts at this level."

We’d better brace for more. In testimony before Parliament, strategic analyst George Petrolekas, a retired Canadian colonel and former advisor to the chiefs of defence staff, warned that broken relations with Russia will surely encourage more Putin probes.

"Will he test us? Yes… It’s just another area where he can test reaction, he can test resolve," Petrolekas told the committee.

Putin even seems determined to test spots along the vast North American Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ), which stretches out 200 miles, or 321 kilometres, beyond Canadian and U.S. continental borders.

U.S. jets intercepted Russian long-range bombers off Alaska and California this month, just the latest in an increasing number of confrontations off the Pacific coast.

What startled Washington was the brazenness of the flights and their growing numbers since the Ukraine crisis broke. The latest Alaskan challenge involved four bombers plus two aerial refueling tankers. Two of the bombers later flew west to within 130 kilometres of northern California.

Such close-in probes by the Tu-95 bombers, capable of carrying nuclear bombs and cruise missiles, are not strictly illegal, but North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) always scrambles fighters unless foreign pilots file detailed flight plans and maintain radio and radar transponder contact.

Beginning of 'Chill War'?
With the passing of the Cold War, the probes disappeared for many years. But now under Putin and what appears to be the beginning of a Chill War, their reemergence means a lot of extra headaches and workload for U.S. and Canadian pilots.

It could easily turn into a very severe strain for Canada’s modest fighter fleet of 132 F-18s, which has to cover extraordinary distances to provide full protection when Russians come snooping. It’s an expensive and draining effort.

A sustained campaign of Russian harassment, if it comes to that, will compel our air force to fully employ the four Forward Operation Location (FOL) sites set up as interception mini-bases in Yellowknife, Iqaluit, Inuvik and Rankin Inlet. They’re built to accommodate up to six fighters each and 200 support personnel.

What is worrisome for those trying to predict Russian behaviour is that problems may not end with flights. Russia has been significantly increasing both civilian and military resources within its Arctic region, from nuclear icebreakers to 80 naval ships, and is now adding mobile missiles.

According to Jane's Defence Weekly, the Russians are testing short-range Pantsir-S1 missiles in the far north for use against aircraft, helicopters, cruise missiles, even drones. It’s the latest part of military Arctic expansion as Russia "looks to secure economic rights as melting sea ice opens trade routes and potential oil reserves."

Given that Canada and the U.S. are also expanding military resources in the Arctic, the latest tension underscores the growing number of potential flashpoints at sea and in the air.

Canada deserves credit for several of its principled stands against Putin. It’s not clear, however, that we carefully thought through how to respond to the strategic costs and consequences of shoving our bilateral military and civilian relations with Russia into a deep freeze.

Putin gets payback for Canada's anti-Russia stance
 
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taxslave

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Putin is just testing to see how good our resolve is to defend our teritory. Make no mistake if we do not exercise our authority in the Arctic there will be Russian flags flying this side of the North Pole. This is why we need a strong military since we can not depend on the US to babysit us.
 

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Make no mistake we could avoid any fight and save on fancy shmancy planes if we had better leadership.
 

taxslave

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Make no mistake we could avoid any fight and save on fancy shmancy planes if we had better leadership.

Your idea of bending over and taking it up the azz because you are afraid to fight for your rights is not the way to avoid a fight. The old saying from the 60s still fits. Better Dead than Red.
 

mentalfloss

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It's already proven that it is Harper's actions that are increasing the risk of conflict.
 

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hey look...rob ford is back at work today...nobody cares about jets.
 

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The logistics in terms of developing the resources in the North won't work without the corresponding infrastructure and support... Without those components, the Arctic may as well as be a wasteland to the Russians
 

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Your idea of bending over and taking it up the azz because you are afraid to fight for your rights is not the way to avoid a fight. The old saying from the 60s still fits. Better Dead than Red.

And that is exactly what MF means about better leadership... bending over and taking it up the azz.
 

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The logistics in terms of developing the resources in the North won't work without the corresponding infrastructure and support... Without those components, the Arctic may as well as be a wasteland to the Russians

If Canada can't effectively defend its far north its possible for others to develop the component elements necessary for resource recovery without serious molestation.

Technology for resource recovery changes over time. It may become possible to extract resources without the same comprehensive infrastructure.

In the long term I think it will be China rather than Russia that poses a challenge.
 

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Hey look!!! I can see Mississauga from Yellowknife.. is that MentalTwats house?

 

Angstrom

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The hell with defense. I say we start WW3 and kick the craps out of those Russian retards.
 

MHz

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Where is the spray that has turned to ice? We need a man of action over a hero who only knows how to pose the part, like Cheney. (except for shooting a Lawyer in the face, and calling the strike on the Pentagram, those had a 'certain flair' that is going to be hard to beat) More coal can push the belly around to the back.

Let's just go and take a piece of Siberia, fake a vote and keep taking more.
When did Isreal ever fake a vote, if we back them they will have out back when we go to free Crimea, right? HTF did we include Crimea as 'not Russia', zoom into the area the Special Forces were 'captured' (with a complete set of plans of how the Ukraine can surrender with honor, and then freed with a speed that shows no waterboarding would have taken place. No doubt a combination of fear and good judgment on the park of Kiev, your heroes.
All the successful people in your life must look at what you do and then do the opposite. You have it partly right, to be in the here and now you have to say something relative to what is happening today rather than your nightmare from ages gone by. Kiev has an opening that is as close to a time portal as you will find these days. I don't think your boots on the ground will make a lot of difference so maybe the thread about getting aid is where you should be 'working'. I'm going to drag up a lot of the past over there as what fun will that be, eh?

A red? Walter get thee to the coal bin and shovel thine heart out, really, till it stops.
 
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MHz

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They already have jobs in Russia, mortgage too if they plan on staying. The Rebel fighters coming in from foreign lands get a home and a job in the areas they help fight for. Welcome ISIS into your life, maybe they will fight Russia for you, Germany wants their wheels turning smoothly rather than all wobbly and on a bumpy road that comes with any war. Waaaa, suck it up big boy.