Fair question for the left coasters


Locutus
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Cody Battershill ‏@codyincalgary



Why did #TidesUSA Buy 150 acres right next door to Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson?

With the U.S. in tough times, one would think that American charities would be doing all they can to help out at home. The last thing that I would have expected is that the San Francisco-based Tides Foundation ("Tides USA") would pay over a million dollars for a 150 acre park on Cortes Island, in British Columbia. But to my surprise, this is precisely what Tides USA recently announced. Tides USA initially purchased the land in 2007 and held it in a numbered company in Vancouver, tax returns show (see below). Locally, this 150 acre property is known as Hanks Beach.

In September of 2011, Tides USA announced that it had purchased Hank's Beach along with Renewal Partners, and was donating it to the Strathcona Regional District, under the Ecological Gifts Program of Environment Canada.


One of the larger projects of Tides USA is a "Tar Sands Campaign" against Alberta oil. In 2009 and 2010, Tides USA paid $10 million to 43 small, environmental groups for their involvement in this campaign, tax returns show. Tides USA and Tides Canada also spend roughly $20 million annually on consultants, $15 million and $5 million, respectively. Who they are and what they do is not made public.

In the run-up to the 2008 election, Vision Vancouver's biggest financial backer was the former chair of Tides USA, Joel Solomon. He's a central figure in a tightly knit web of organizations funded by Tides USA and Tides Canada. In a rather candid interview last year, Solomon told the Huffington Post, that the election of Mayor Robertson was the result of "nearly 20 years of moving in a purposeful direction."

Even before this new 150 acre ocean-front park, Cortes Island already had two large parks and vast tracts of crown land - and only 1,150 residents.

By way of comparison, Stanley Park, Vancouver's biggest park is about 1,000 acres. In terms of size, buying Hanks' Beach is equivalent to buying about 15 percent of Stanley Park. That's a lot of land.


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Why did Tides USA Buy 150 acres on Cortes Island - right next door to Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson? - Rethink Campaigns

 
petros
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15% of Staley Parkż Hopefully the fruit loop.
 
eh1eh
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They're a US based environmental charity that also operates in Canada. What is the big fuking mystery?


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In the run-up to the 2008 election, Vision Vancouver's biggest financial backer was the former chair of Tides USA, Joel Solomon. He's a central figure in a tightly knit web of organizations funded by Tides USA and Tides Canada.

 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by eh1ehView Post

What is the big fuking mystery?

Their point.
 
Tonington
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Quote: Originally Posted by eh1ehView Post

They're a US based environmental charity that also operates in Canada. What is the big fuking mystery?

Really though. Fair question for the right. Why do you care what a private land owner does with their purchased land? That's completely anti-thetical to conservative principles. It's a hell of a lot better than NIMBY isn't it, especially when it's not their backyard. They put their money where their mouth is.

Neo-NIMBYism: no ecological preserves or parks in my back yard-or anyone elses- dammit!
 
petros
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Have conservationists orgs ever cut off public access to public lands by buying adjacent of surrounding properties?

PS there is no private property in Canada. You only have usage rights.
 
Locutus
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the TIDES is high kids.
 
Tonington
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Have conservationists orgs ever cut off public access to public lands by buying adjacent of surrounding properties?

Not sure, maybe? But that wasn't done in this case. It's a park now...that's clearly public access.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Not sure, maybe? But that wasn't done in this case. It's a park now...that's clearly public access.

Maybe would be a yes. WWF has a nasty habit of blocking access as do others.

In this instance...so far.
 
Locutus
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all you want to know about TIDES:

https://www.activistfacts.com/organi...-tides-center/
 
Tonington
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Maybe would be a yes. WWF has a nasty habit of blocking access as do others.

Examples? Not that it matters, as I said it shouldn't matter to a conservative what someone does with land they purchased.

Quote:

In this instance...so far.

Well, it would be foolish to harp on them for something they might do at some point in the future at a time we're only hypothesizing...although it wouldn't be Tides then. They gifted the land with the condition that it be kept as a park. They don't own it anymore. It's right up there in the OP...
 
Locutus
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Tides Directors In the Neighborhood

I find it interesting to note that the property that Tides USA chose to purchase is within walking distance of private properties owned by Drummond Pike and Joel Solomon. Going back even farther and further than Joel Solomon, Pike is also a central figure in the Tides network of charities. Pike was the CEO of Tides USA for 34 years before quietly departing in 2010. Pike is also the founding chair of Tides Canada, the chairman of the Endswell Foundation and a senior advisor to Renewal Partners. That's in addition to the 26 organizations of which Pike was a director, according to U.S. tax returns.

Hollyhock, a high-end, ocean-front charity facility which has been funded by Tides USA and Tides Canada - to the tune of at least $445,000 - is also within walking distance of Hank's Beach. Hollyhock appears to be a mix of non-profit work and for-profit business, such as the "Bodywork" offered by Hollyhock Farm Ltd. (Looks like a spa to me). Prior to entering B.C. politics in 2005, the treasurer of Hollyhock Farm Ltd., was Gregor Robertson.

Back in 2006, in a Cortes Island newsletter, Carol Newell, the alleged founder of Tides Canada, gave the impression that she would personally buy the Hanks Beach property "in order to return our beach and trails to the community forever," she said. But did she? Who actually bought and paid for Hank's Beach?


Title searches and other records show that Hanks Beach was:
  • Bought by Weyerhauser on June 8, 2000
  • Sold by Weyerhauser to Island Timberlands on June 6, 2005
  • Sold by Island Timberlands to Monkey King Enterprises Ltd. on January 4, 2006
  • Sold by Monkey King Enterprises Ltd. to Renewal Land on June 1, 2006
  • Sold from Renewal Land to 0793406 B.C. LTD on June 1, 2008. That's a numbered company in Vancouver that is a wholly owned subsidiary of the U.S. Tides Foundation (see excerpt from U.S. tax returns, below).


At the request of Mrs. Dana Bass Solomon, the map at the right does not indicate the location of properties owned by herself and Joel Solomon. (Interestingly enough, of all the e-mails and letters that I have sent to Joel Solomon, the only response that I ever received was this e-mail from his wife, asking that the location of her home not be disclosed).

Treedom Ventures Ltd. Owned by Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson



A title search and other documents show that Hank's Beach is immediately adjacent to an 82 acre ocean-front property owned by Treedom Ventures Ltd., a B.C. company which is owned or co-owned by Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson, according to his financial disclosure statement.

How much of Treedom Ventures is owned by Mayor Robertson is not clear to me but I have noticed that from 2002 to 2006, the directors/officers of Treedom Ventures Ltd. were Gregor Robertson and his wife, Amy, company records show.

Why Hank's Beach?

Of all the countries in the world where Tides USA could create a million-dollar, 150 acre park, why Canada? Why Cortes Island? And why Hank's Beach?

Tides USA says that the land is "pristine," a "sensitive ecosystem" with "mature forests" but locals say that its far from pristine. Its been logged on and off for 70 years.

One thing is for sure, it won't hurt the property values of the vice-chair of Tides Canada and Mayor Gregor Robertson to be next door to a 150 acre park.






 
Goober
Free Thinker
#13
When asking that question every answer will be left of right.
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
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Just across the channel from Suzuki. About the only part of Cortez that has not been logged in the last 100 years is some pockets of Fir with no market value.
 
Kreskin
#15
They bought it because it was cheap.
 
Dixie Cup
Libertarian
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It's WHO is behind the Tides Foundation that should peak everyone's interest - especially in Canada. George Soros, for one, has his little fingys in that organization and multiple others and he's not one to mess around with. He has powerful allies and can easily destroy a country's economy because he's so loaded and has such powerful contacts in various governments around the world. Most politico's do his bidding because he can literally destroy them. Soros is just one of many like him who rule the roast behind the scenes. The Tides Foundation is only one of many that are just a front.


I would want the Canadian government to ensure that the Tides Foundation and other like foundations lose their charitable status since they have no charity at all in mind. They are deliberate and very subtle in their approaches and Canadians need to be aware of their agenda. They are NOT "charitable" and most certainly do not have OUR best interests at heart.


I'm not a conspiracy buff at all but this guy is serious business and from what I've read and examined about him and the Tides Foundation is quite scary. He pretends to be just a "business man" but believe me he's MUCH more than that. He didn't get to be a multi-billion (perhaps even a trillionaire) doing hard labour.


I'm just sayin....


JMO
 
petros
#17
You're right. They aren't charities.
 
Locutus
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Vivian Krause ‏@FairQuestions

Monday's interview re: Tides campaign that landlocks our oil & costs Canada BILLION$:


http://bit.ly/1pjzi4J @JohnGormleyLive @TidesCanada
 
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