Some Tories pushing to dump Tim Hudak immediately


mentalfloss
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Cockroaches.


Some Tories pushing to dump Tim Hudak immediately

A defiant Tim Hudak is trying to remain at the helm of the Progressive Conservatives until a new leader is elected despite angry caucus members urging him to go.

In the wake of Thursday's humbling defeat at the hands of Premier Kathleen Wynne's Liberals, the Tories met for almost four hours in an emotionally charged meeting at Queen's Park.

Hudak emerged from the closed-door session insisting he was sticking to his timetable and serving as leader until his successor is chosen, which could take many months.

"I have no regrets," he told reporters when asked about the controversial pledge to eliminate 100,000 public sector jobs over four years.

"We could all do Monday morning quarterback . . . I'm proud of the campaign we ran."

The Tory chief who earns $180,886 as leader of the official Opposition, a $64,336 premium above the base $116,550 salary of an MPP did not sound like he was in a hurry to leave.

"I announced my plans on the Thursday night. The party will decide what the process is around a new leader."

But some Conservative MPPs want Hudak to depart immediately so an interim leader can be appointed and the party can move on after the election debacle.

"We need renewal in our party and it has to start today," said Todd Smith (Prince Edward-Hastings), blaming the leader and the central campaign team for the "brutal . . . devastating" 100,000-job-cut pledge.

"This was an anti-Tim Hudak election," he said, adding Hudak simply cannot stay on.

Smith and other Tory MPPs confide the party needs to tack back to the centre.

"We need to definitely not poke the bear, so to speak. What we've seen is a very confrontational approach over the last little while and I think we need to have a softer approach, a more collaborative approach," he said.

MPP Toby Barrett (Haldimand-Norfolk) said he gives "credit to the organizational skills of the public sector unions" for his party's rout.

"We have a government for the government unions run by the government unions," said Barrett, noting the Tories gave public sector workers something to rally against by threatening massive cuts.

MPP Randy Hillier (Larnark-Frontenac-Lennox and Addington) said "the 100,000 jobs absolutely" hurt PC candidates.

Hillier said he heard concerns about Hudak's promise on many doorsteps while canvassing.

Conservative MPPs are especially furious with the central campaign namely Hudak and advisers Tom Long and Ian Robertson and blame them for the shellacking.

"We handed them a distraction from their own record," said one incredulous defeated Tory, referring to a Liberal government plagued with scandals after more than a decade in office.

On May 9 Hudak, with local MPP Rod Jackson at his side, made the promise at a campaign stop in Barrie to slash 100,000 positions. Jackson's Liberal opponent later used that vow as a bludgeon to help defeat him.

To a person, Tory MPPs claimed they were "blindsided" by a promise, announced with little notice or consultation, that quickly became an albatross as they went door-to-door in their ridings.

"It was our policy we couldn't explain as well as we should have," said defeated Etobicoke-Lakeshore incumbent Doug Holyday.

"They were able to misconstrue it and convince a majority of voters what we were doing was horrible," said Holyday, who had been the lone Tory MPP in Toronto.

Defeated Cambridge incumbent Rob Leone said "the unions definitely did their job and got their vote out.

"We heard it at the doors. It was a tough message to sell," Leone said of the austerity measures.

Conservatives who were re-elected said they had to refocus more on their own efforts and records of achievement in the legislature, such as issues championed and private members' bills put forward.

"Sometimes you have to give the finger to the central campaign and go local," one survivor told the Star.

Last Thursday, Wynne led the Liberals to a stunning majority election victory, winning 58 seats in the 107-member legislature to 28 for the Tories, who lost nine seats, including six incumbents. Andrea Horwath's New Democrats were held to 21 seats.

Along with Holyday, Jackson and Leone, Ted Chudleigh (Halton), Rob Milligan (Northumberland-Quinte West), Jane McKenna (Burlington), and Jerry Ouellette (Oshawa) also lost.

With Hudak's future uncertain, there is already interest in who could get the party back on track.

MPP Christine Elliott (Whitby-Oshawa), a frontrunner to be the next leader, said "it's too early to say" whether she will run. Elliott said right now the Tories need to assess the damage.

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shadowshiv
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Every time there was an election, Hudak ended up being his own worst enemy. I think the Conservatives may have had a better run if they had someone else running besides Hudak.

I will say that I am not looking forward to four more years of Wynne.
 
mentalfloss
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Liberal majority is worth it for the lesbian photo ops alone.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Cockroaches!.

God you are an idiot.
 
Count_Lothian
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Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

God you are an idiot.

Did you vote for Hudak?
Cause if you did ,I would take a rest from telling people what they .

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Quote: Originally Posted by Count_LothianView Post

Did you vote for Hudak?
Cause if you did ,I would take a rest from telling people what they .

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Sure Dave.
 
Count_Lothian
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Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

Sure Dave.

well the hudak guy proved to be an idiot, his own are doing the present C logo thing >>>toss em under the nearest bus.

So I would feel like a numbnut arseinthehole if I voted for the idiot.
I mean only idiots fell for his spin doctor's hogwash.

It is a nightmare to be a C logo supporter for the next lil while until they drag out some other ill conceived notion of a leader.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

God you are an idiot.

You don't think there is a dearth of tact by the poopie party in the aftermath of the election?


The writing is on the wall here.

None of the right want to admit that their ideology is fundamentally wrong, so they are playing the 'blame Hudak' card.
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

You don't think there is a dearth of tact by the poopie party in the aftermath of the election?


The writing is on the wall here.

None of the right want to admit that their ideology is fundamentally wrong, so they are playing the 'blame Hudak' card.

Actually their ideology is fundamentally sound. Just that the voters would rather live on credit than pay their own way. Nice gift to the grandkids.
 
Count_Lothian
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post


None of the right want to admit that their ideology is fundamentally wrong, so they are playing the 'blame Hudak' card.

It goes far beyond ideology. Their focus groups have changed and they missed that. Thats how out of touch these mean spirited politicians are.
The anger seen by the provincial caucus members and their rush to purge the party of Hudak is a sign of what these people actually are.

Part of their voting block is bailing due to a really bad taste in the mouths. The sane party supporters.

They know they lost C logo support . They just cannot admit why.
They know one time loyal C logo supporters have jumped ship, due to the fact most Ontario voters are a sane lot, with heart.

The name bashing and anger RCS produces here on page after page towards this forum membership is a sign of the last remnants of the C logo party.
Colpy with his blinders on is another, this is all these people have left . Everyone of substance and integrity is bailing .

It's not so much rats jumping ship , but good people leaving with a bad taste in their mouths.

Canadians at heart like myself and you and few others on this board are a good nature lot. They do not really tolerate this sort .
 
lone wolf
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I thought it a little amusing when they tried to show the story on NewsNorth - no sound first, then no play, then gone by the next broadcast
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by Count_LothianView Post

It goes far beyond ideology.
Canadians at heart like myself and you and few others on this board are a good nature lot. They do not really tolerate this sort .

Read free with other people money.
 

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