Kathleen Wynne urged to toughen penalties for political staff who destroy records


Locutus
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really?

Ontario’s new majority Liberal government should put “strong” teeth into laws requiring political staff to preserve records in the wake of the $1.1 billion gas plants scandal, Information and Privacy Commissioner Ann Cavoukian urged Tuesday.

“There have to be consequences,” Cavoukian told a news conference after delivering her annual report, calling for “strong” penalties.

“We need to make the act of wilfully destroying documents an offence,” she added, but stopped short of specifying what penalties she would like to see and would not say such actions should be considered a criminal offence.

Cavoukian issued a scathing report a year ago into deleted documents in the gas plants scandal, stemming from the cancellation of plants in Oakville and Mississauga before the 2011 election.


more obviousness


Kathleen Wynne urged to toughen penalties for political staff who destroy records | Toronto Star


I'm sure mr wynn will get right on this
 
mentalfloss
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They'll just delete his report.
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
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Remember all those paper shredders around Queens Park come Government Changing Day?

Now they just hit Delete
 
damngrumpy
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All governments from the beginning of time have done this its nothing new and
will continue for a period long after most of us are gone.
Delete is cheaper than shredders anyway everyone know that.
 
Count_Lothian
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Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

All governments from the beginning of time have done this its nothing new and
will continue for a period long after most of us are gone.
Delete is cheaper than shredders anyway everyone know that.

there is no real delete except if you totally destroy the hard drive.
 
lone wolf
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Is there an echo in this room? ....room? ... room?
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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The title of the op is laughable. It's a little late to ask a government that should have never been given another mandate to start behaving properly now.
 
mentalfloss
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I heard that now that there is a majority Lib government, they can pretty much sweep this one under the rug now.

Sucks not having a proportional democracy, doesn't it?
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

I heard that now that there is a majority Lib government, they can pretty much sweep this one under the rug now.

Sucks not having a proportional democracy, doesn't it?

Shame I won't be there to contribute my tax dollars to the stupidity. You get what you deserve if you voted these bums back in. Should be entertaining watching from the sidelines.
 
Sal
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I fuking hate this lying, thieving woman and that fact that she will not have to be accountable for what she did all because some moron wasn't vetted correctly and ran the campaign from hell. A chimp would have won against this idiot...why should he resign, all of his managers should be shot.

I fuking hate our system of government that can allow this type of corruption to be placed back into power allowing us no control and they have no accountability.

Sometime ask me what I really think if I don't hold back.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

I fuking hate this lying, thieving woman and that fact that she will not have to be accountable for what she did all because some moron wasn't vetted correctly and ran the campaign from hell. A chimp would have won against this idiot...why should he resign, all of his managers should be shot.

I fuking hate our system of government that can allow this type of corruption to be placed back into power allowing us no control and they have no accountability.

Sometime ask me what I really think if I don't hold back.

Sal, they have Donairs in Alberta and no HST what else could possibly be holding you back?
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

Sal, they have Donairs in Alberta and no HST what else could possibly be holding you back?

no sh*t, it looks better every day.... the winters suck though huh?

donairs though....and I can wear mukluks and ski goggles nine months of the year...and I wouldn't need to pay for air conditioning
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

no sh*t, it looks better every day.... the winters suck though huh?

donairs though....and I can wear mukluks and ski goggles nine months of the year...and I wouldn't need to pay for air conditioning

Winters suck here too.
 
Count_Lothian
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

I fuking hate this lying, thieving woman and that fact that she will not have to be accountable for what she did all because some moron wasn't vetted correctly and ran the campaign from hell. A chimp would have won against this idiot...why should he resign, all of his managers should be shot.

I fuking hate our system of government that can allow this type of corruption to be placed back into power allowing us no control and they have no accountability.

Sometime ask me what I really think if I don't hold back
.

well lets see if i can wind you up enough to hear it
A chimp did try to win and all of Humpty's men could put the spin in the top.

The conservative focus group he aimed for was not enough and some conservatives bailed on him and voted Liberal.

It was Conservatives that put her in power.

The conservative spin docotrs and the ones that bailed knowing this guy was a chimp who danced to the wrong spin doctors
 
Locutus
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I sure do hope mr wynn doesn't develop prostate cancer...that would be a darn shame.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

no sh*t, it looks better every day.... the winters suck though huh?

donairs though....and I can wear mukluks and ski goggles nine months of the year...and I wouldn't need to pay for air conditioning

The money you'll make here will cozy you up to a nice Tropical vacation.

Quote: Originally Posted by Count_LothianView Post

well lets see if i can wind you up enough to hear it
A chimp did try to win and all of Humpty's men could put the spin in the top.

The conservative focus group he aimed for was not enough and some conservatives bailed on him and voted Liberal.

It was Conservatives that put her in power.

The conservative spin docotrs and the ones that bailed knowing this guy was a chimp who danced to the wrong spin doctors

You're not completely wrong Doc. I wanted them to dump Hudak, but from where I stood the NDP would have been an improvement. Funny you don't sound so Conservative as you claimed when you got here, you just sound like Dave.
 
Count_Lothian
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IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

You're not completely wrong Doc. I wanted them to dump Hudak, but from where I stood the NDP would have been an improvement. Funny you don't sound so Conservative as you claimed when you got here, you just sound like Dave.

I do recall old Doc was a flaming Lieberal too. If he is not Doc, he certainly has the same political leanings as him.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

I do recall old Doc was a flaming Lieberal too. If he is not Doc, he certainly has the same political leanings as him.

Yep, the mask slips. I remember when he outed himself before and confessed how he had to work overtime to keep everything straight.
 
lone wolf
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My piss-me-off from the mailbox came in a new hydro bill demanding $259/mo from what had been a crazy $169/mo for what isn't even 900 sq ft and heated by gas. I get $1172/mo on ODSP, and Hydro One wants 22% of it. Get rid of that internal pyramid of step-up profit generators (the debt, OPG, whoever it is that delivers the stuff and the office stuff with the greedy hands) and give us back Ontario Hydro. Sorry, but deregulation was neither Wynne nor McGuinty's baby
 
pgs
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

My piss-me-off from the mailbox came in a new hydro bill demanding $259/mo from what had been a crazy $169/mo for what isn't even 900 sq ft and heated by gas. I get $1172/mo on ODSP, and Hydro One wants 22% of it. Get rid of that internal pyramid of step-up profit generators (the debt, OPG, whoever it is that delivers the stuff and the office stuff with the greedy hands) and give us back Ontario Hydro. Sorry, but deregulation was neither Wynne nor McGuinty's baby

Pity .
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by pgsView Post

Pity .

Yeah... It is... I wish the same or worse for you, troll
 
pgs
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Yeah... It is... I wish the same or worse for you, troll

Yup and I live under a bridge as well .
I will sell you a share . That is if you can afford it after paying your hydro bill .
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

My piss-me-off from the mailbox came in a new hydro bill demanding $259/mo from what had been a crazy $169/mo for what isn't even 900 sq ft and heated by gas. I get $1172/mo on ODSP, and Hydro One wants 22% of it. Get rid of that internal pyramid of step-up profit generators (the debt, OPG, whoever it is that delivers the stuff and the office stuff with the greedy hands) and give us back Ontario Hydro. Sorry, but deregulation was neither Wynne nor McGuinty's baby

So who was in charge the last 11 years as the rates soared? Certainly not McGuinty or Wynne.
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Yeah... It is... I wish the same or worse for you, troll

You too, Walter the spineless twit. Lotsa red and no balls

Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

So who was in charge the last 11 years as the rates soared? Certainly not McGuinty or Wynne.

Who killed Ontario Hydro and deregulated the industry allowing crooks to do as they please? - and yes, that includes the next guys who hope to fix Harris f-ups with their own ...
 
Nuggler
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*pgs and Wally: two snakes out of the same egg. Never let a trolling opp. go by.
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by pgsView Post

Yup and I live under a bridge as well .
I will sell you a share . That is if you can afford it after paying your hydro bill .

Pretty much guessed you lived under something
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Who killed Ontario Hydro and deregulated the industry allowing crooks to do as they please? - and yes, that includes the next guys who hope to fix Harris f-ups with their own ...

AB went through our deregulation some years ago and like yourself, the prices jumped.

That said, when you crunched the numbers, the price increase was a reflection of the real costs of the stuff, more so than a money grab by the private sector.

All the time prior to dereg, the AB gvt was operating those services at a loss in order to offer cheap energy, but although the monthly bill was lower, the gvt made up the difference in taxes.

.... And no, when the gvt sold-off the facilities, they did not lower the taxes
 
pgs
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Quote: Originally Posted by NugglerView Post

*pgs and Wally: two snakes out of the same egg. Never let a trolling opp. go by.

Yup Nuggler and lonely wolf lovely couple you two make .
Ontariowe deserves you .
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

My piss-me-off from the mailbox came in a new hydro bill demanding $259/mo from what had been a crazy $169/mo for what isn't even 900 sq ft and heated by gas. I get $1172/mo on ODSP, and Hydro One wants 22% of it. Get rid of that internal pyramid of step-up profit generators (the debt, OPG, whoever it is that delivers the stuff and the office stuff with the greedy hands) and give us back Ontario Hydro. Sorry, but deregulation was neither Wynne nor McGuinty's baby

It seems to me the energy cost increase is more caused by McSquinty's closing of all those coal power plants without replacing the power. Less supply, same demand = higher prices.

Privitization may or may not have been a good thing but Wynne and McSquinty have been around since 2003. Plenty of time to correct the situation if they so desired. I contend McSquinty made it worse.

Also imagine the provincial deficit if the Ontario governent was still absorbing Ontario Hydro's deficit.
 

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