Harper’s disrespect for the Supreme Court harms the workings of government


mentalfloss
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Harper’s disrespect for the Supreme Court harms the workings of government

The recent comments by Prime Minister Stephen Harper, claiming that the Chief Justice of Canada attempted an inappropriate conversation with him, demonstrate a disrespect by the executive branch for the judicial branch of our constitutional democracy, and for the Chief Justice of Canada as the most senior member of the Canadian judiciary. This is so despite the fact that the discussion in question involved a possible new appointment to the Supreme Court of Canada, a topic well within guidelines for appropriate conversations between prime ministers and chief justices.

The judicial branch is one of the three independent components of Canada's constitutional democracy, the other two being the legislative and the executive branches. Our system can operate effectively only if each component is respectful and courteous in its relations with the others. The courtesy and respect that these relationships require are particularly important for the judicial branch because it must ultimately judge the constitutionality of the conduct of the other two branches and, yet, at the same time, must on a day-to-day administrative level have dialogue with them. Furthermore, the judicial branch, and judges generally, do not have the ability to defend themselves if those very relationships are used as grounds for attack.

The events in April to July 2013 demonstrate the usual and respectful relationship between the judicial branch and the other two branches of government. In April 2013, the Chief Justice, quite properly and according to long-standing tradition, provided her input to the appropriate parliamentary committee about proposed new appointments to the Supreme Court of Canada. In July, she provided her input to the Canadian government. These discussions occurred well before the nomination of Justice Marc Nadon. They were perfectly in line with the sort of courteous discussions which have historically occurred and which Canadians would expect to occur between the judiciary and the executive with respect to judicial appointments.

In contrast, the recent statements by the Prime Minister were made nine months after the conversations in question occurred, long after the Prime Minister could have dealt with any aspect of those discussions if there had been any good-faith reason to do so. The Prime Minister’s statements were made only after the government had been a litigant in appeals before the Supreme Canada, leaving the impression that the statements were aimed at the Court as a reaction to the result of the decisions in those appeals -- conduct in which no respectful private litigant should engage.

As recent press reports demonstrate, these circumstances leave us concerned that the Prime Minister’s statements may intimidate or harm the ability of the Supreme Court of Canada to render justice objectively and fairly -- even when the government of Canada chooses to be a litigant before it. In addition, the statement threatens to lead to abandonment of the fruitful and necessary respectful relationships between the Supreme Court of Canada and the two other branches of government and a refusal by the Court, and all courts, to have any dealings with the other two branches for fear of retribution to which the judicial branch cannot in any seemly fashion respond fully.

As former presidents of the Canadian Bar Association, we ask the Prime Minister to remedy this situation in a way which will demonstrate to our judiciary and to Canadians at large that he respects the independence of our courts and will treat with due courtesy the Chief Justice of Canada.

Harper’s disrespect for the Supreme Court harms the workings of government - The Globe and Mail
 
mentalfloss
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Harper accused of trying to ‘intimidate’ Supreme Court justices
 
Walter
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Drivel. Another slow news say for the lefties.
 
Spade
Free Thinker
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Government having disrespect for the way we are governed? What do they know they ain't saying?
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Drivel. Another slow news say for the lefties.

I was listening to a right wing radio station today - you can take a stab at who it was - and they were all in agreement that this was an idiotic move by Harper.
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

I was listening to a right wing radio station today - you can take a stab at who it was - and they were all in agreement that this was an idiotic move by Harper.

There's no right wing radio in Canada.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

There's no right wing radio in Canada.

I must have missed the memo when Colpy was championing one of his favourite pundits.
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

I must have missed the memo when Colpy was championing one of his favourite pundits.

Leftards miss a lot, but they have good intentions.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Leftards miss a lot, but they have good intentions.

Are you implying that a radio station that regularly props up right wing 'heroes' isn't right wing?

I'm sure you also believe Ford is a leftist going by that conbot logic.
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Are you implying that a radio station that regularly props up right wing 'heroes' isn't right wing?

I'm sure you also believe Ford is a leftist going by that conbot logic.

You have no idea what I believe.
 
Nuggler
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Try Lowel (spelling) Green on CFRA AM., and the rest of the bunch on this talk radio station.


Owned and sponsored by CTV


No right wing.


Pfffft.
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by NugglerView Post

Try Lowel (spelling) Green on CFRA AM., and the rest of the bunch on this talk radio station.


Owned and sponsored by CTV


No right wing.


Pfffft.

All owned by Bell which is, even though I like my dividend, definitely anything but a right wing entity with a headquarters in Montreal.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

You have no idea what I believe.

I'm not sure you have any idea what you believe.

EDIT: Dat free speechin' reddie strikes again.

It just screams 'I am oh soo libertarian'
Last edited by mentalfloss; May 7th, 2014 at 10:17 AM..
 
mentalfloss
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Harper's dust-up with the chief justice - pique or strategy?
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
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With all the red he hands out, I think he may be a closet Liberal
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

With all the red he hands out, I think he may be a closet Liberal

He's even worse than the 'politically correct lefties' he criticizes.
 
mentalfloss
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Harper had a temper tantrum?

What a douche.

Tossing Beanies at Beverley: Stephen Harper's Supreme temper tantrum - The Globe and Mail
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
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The putz doesn't respect Canadians or democracy. Time to fire his sorry azz. Let's take a page from the Yanks and impeach the prick.

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

He's even worse than the 'politically correct lefties' he criticizes.

I have an idea. Every time Wally hands out a red, everybody give that person a green. I do everytime I know he gives someone a red just to ballance it out, but if everybody did that, his reds would be meaningless (which they are).
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

The putz doesn't respect Canadians or democracy. Time to fire his sorry azz. Let's take a page from the Yanks and impeach the prick.


I have an idea. Every time Wally hands out a red, everybody give that person a green. I do everytime I know he gives someone a red just to ballance it out, but if everybody did that, his reds would be meaningless (which they are).

I like this idea as 100% of the time the person he gives a reddie is completely right.
 
55Mercury
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

I like this idea as 100% of the time the person he gives a reddie is completely right.

by that measure...

I was right once...

maybe twice

ain't that right, Wally?
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

I like this idea as 100% of the time the person he gives a reddie is completely right.

he doesn't give reds to the right, only what he perceives as left of Vlad the Impaler.
 
Locutus
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

he doesn't give reds to the right, only what he perceives as left of Vlad the Impaler.


Negatory Pig Pen

I've had a snootful from Walter over the years.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

Negatory Pig Pen

I've had a snootful from Walter over the years.

OK, you are not quite as far right as Vlad then. I'm sure you didn't get any reds from him for your posts bashing the lefties.
Last edited by Cliffy; May 9th, 2014 at 04:42 PM..
 
Dexter Sinister
No Party Affiliation
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

You have no idea what I believe.

On the contrary, everybody who reads your posts has a pretty good idea of what you believe, at least on the subjects you post about and the many ideas you rate as bad.
 
mentalfloss
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Partisan hackery revealed:

Supreme Court-Marc Nadon spat shows PM's problem with Quebec's liberal judges
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

he doesn't give reds to the right, only what he perceives as left of Vlad the Impaler.

Oh yes he does. Or maybe I am not right enough.

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Partisan hackery revealed:

Supreme Court-Marc Nadon spat shows PM's problem with Quebec's liberal judges

Liberal hack judges are a problem all right.
 
FiveParadox
Liberal
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Liberal hack judges are a problem all right.

Sure. Well, at least if we entirely ignore the fact that this is nonsense.

The Honourable Madame Chief Justice Nicole Duval Hesler, Chief Justice of Québec, was appointed on the advice of The Right Honourable Stephen Harper P.C., M.P. (Calgary Southwest), the Prime Minister. When you include the other nineteen permanent members of the Québec Court of Appeal, the bench’s composition is as follows:

  • three judges appointed by The Right Honourable Jean Chrétien P.C., C.C., O.M., Q.C., 20th Prime Minister;
  • four judges appointed by The Right Honourable Paul Martin P.C., C.C., 21st Prime Minister;
  • thirteen judges appointed by Mr. Harper under the Conservative Party.

Once the Conservatives appoint 13 out of 20 judges on Québec’s top court, they don’t get to complain about “liberal hack judges” anymore, because it’s a fabrication of reality, and a shameless cop-out (that is, blaming the courts, instead of spending more time drafting sound and constitutional public policy).
 
Nuggler
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Quote: Originally Posted by FiveParadoxView Post

Sure. Well, at least if we entirely ignore the fact that this is nonsense.

The Honourable Madame Chief Justice Nicole Duval Hesler, Chief Justice of Québec, was appointed on the advice of The Right Honourable Stephen Harper P.C., M.P. (Calgary Southwest), the Prime Minister. When you include the other nineteen permanent members of the Québec Court of Appeal, the bench’s composition is as follows:

  • three judges appointed by The Right Honourable Jean Chrétien P.C., C.C., O.M., Q.C., 20th Prime Minister;
  • four judges appointed by The Right Honourable Paul Martin P.C., C.C., 21st Prime Minister;
  • thirteen judges appointed by Mr. Harper under the Conservative Party.

Once the Conservatives appoint 13 out of 20 judges on Québec’s top court, they don’t get to complain about “liberal hack judges” anymore, because it’s a fabrication of reality, and a shameless cop-out (that is, blaming the courts, instead of spending more time drafting sound and constitutional public policy).




Don't confuse Tax with the facts.



 

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