Gov't spending under Tories is up 23%


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FiveParadox
Liberal
#1
Spending by Her Majesty’s Government since the Conservatives took office in 2006 has increased by 23%, according to an analysis by the Hill Times. This is surprising, given the constant rhetoric of the Conservative Party about the “big spending” nature of the previous Government under the Liberal Party. The analysis compared the Public Accounts (the official record of spending) between the most recently published 2012-2013 year, and the 2006-2007 accounts when the Conservatives formed government following the Commons defeat of the Liberals.

Spending in Transport Canada has more than doubled. This can be partly explained by the fact that this includes Infrastructure Canada, which has received major funding in previous years as part of the Government’s stimulus plan. Spending in Public Works and Government Services Canada has also increased by 59%, as the recipient last year of a new department created by the Government — “Shared Services Canada,” responsible for attempting to consolidate Government technology and infrastructure (see ssc-spc.gc.ca for details about Shared Services Canada).

Considerable spending increases have also been seen in:
  • Treasury Board (47%)
  • Citizenship and Immigration Canada (42%)
  • Public Safety (40%)
  • Finance Canada (14%)
  • Industry Canada (14%)
  • Environment Canada (10%)
  • Fisheries and Oceans (10%)

Notable decreases in spending have been seen in:
  • Western Economic Diversification (-46%)
  • Québec Economic Development Agency (-19%)
  • Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada (-17%)
  • Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency (-4.5%)
  • Canadian Heritage (-4%)

It should be noted that the Conservatives inherited a considerable surplus from the outgoing Liberals in 2006, which can account for a portion of the spending increases (since spending tends to be a requirement for the opposition parties’ support for a minority government), and a spending spike also correlates with the 2009-2010 announcement of stimulus spending to support the economy.

Source: Feds’ spending up 23 per cent since Tories won office (Hill Times)

 
petros
+1
#2
After the cuts in 98 there damn well better have been a surplus.
 
eh1eh
#3
Government spending is up under every party. Even when they tell you it's down. When that happens it means they've passed the buck to a lower government or just plain hid it all in creative accounting.
 
Zipperfish
No Party Affiliation
+1
#4
Linkee no workee. Are these inflation adjusted dollars?
 
Locutus
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by ZipperfishView Post

Linkee no workee. Are these inflation adjusted dollars?

Seems to be a typo (spg instead of spc ) in the hover-over link...not sure if this is the right one Paradox but you can give it a look:

Shared Services Canada's Integrated Business Plan for 2013?2014

main index:

Home | Shared Services Canada
 
FiveParadox
Liberal
#6
Oops! Thanks, Locutus.
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
+2
#7
What is important is not so much total spending but where the money is being spent. Infrastructure is a far better long term investment than social programs or the various diversification programs which are little more than expensive welfare programs.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by FiveParadoxView Post

Spending by Her Majesty’s Government since the Conservatives took office in 2006 has increased by 23%, according to an analysis by the Hill Times. This is surprising, given the constant rhetoric of the Conservative Party about the “big spending” nature of the previous Government under the Liberal Party. The analysis compared the Public Accounts (the official record of spending) between the most recently published 2012-2013 year, and the 2006-2007 accounts when the Conservatives formed government following the Commons defeat of the Liberals.
Spending in Transport Canada has more than doubled. This can be partly explained by the fact that this includes Infrastructure Canada, which has received major funding in previous years as part of the Government’s stimulus plan. Spending in Public Works and Government Services Canada has also increased by 59%, as the recipient last year of a new department created by the Government — “Shared Services Canada,” responsible for attempting to consolidate Government technology and infrastructure (see ssc-spc.gc.ca for details about Shared Services Canada).
Considerable spending increases have also been seen in:Treasury Board (47%)
Citizenship and Immigration Canada (42%)
Public Safety (40%)
Finance Canada (14%)
Industry Canada (14%)...

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So is that a good thing or a bad thing? I would think "Safety", "Fisheries" and the "Environment would all be good things. Actually it's probably kind of a useless post because without details or reasons, it's about as informative as my grocery list. Spending less in Quebec (from my viewpoint) seems like a good thing!





Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

What is important is not so much total spending but where the money is being spent. Infrastructure is a far better long term investment than social programs or the various diversification programs which are little more than expensive welfare programs.


Well, with infrastructure you can probably create a few social programs!
 
tay
+6
#9  Top Rated Post
Can Anyone Explain Why the Canadian Government is Subsidizing the Fossil Fuel Industries?






Why are we some of the most world’s most profitable companies receiving what amount to public handouts when we are supposedly living in a time of austerity?




In Canada, the federal government subsidizes the fossil fuel industries to the tune of more than $20 billion per year.


Is that what the free market looks like?


Not surprisingly, the bulk of these subsidies are going the oil sector.


Subsidies crowd out public spending on infrastructure, health, education and the social safety net, while driving up budget deficits and the public debt.




http://richardhughes.ca/cowichan-con...el-industries/
 
mentalfloss
#10
Obviously it's because of our dangerously high debt to GDP ratio.
 
Walter
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Obviously it's because of our dangerously high debt to GDP ratio.

How high is it?
 
mentalfloss
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

How high is it?

Over 80%
 
Walter
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Over 80%

Got a link?
 
mentalfloss
+2
#14
Canada's Debt to GDP now higher than Germany's
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by FiveParadoxView Post


It should be noted that the Conservatives inherited a considerable surplus from the outgoing Liberals in 2006, which can account for a portion of the spending increases (since spending tends to be a requirement for the opposition parties’ support for a minority government), and a spending spike also correlates with the 2009-2010 announcement of stimulus spending to support the economy.



The global recession impacted those numbers as well

Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

Can Anyone Explain Why the Canadian Government is Subsidizing the Fossil Fuel Industries?


Because it's only fair
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

Can Anyone Explain Why the Canadian Government is Subsidizing the Fossil Fuel Industries?






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Because until a viable alternative is found, it's a very vital industry upon which virtually ALL other industry relies. And it's absolutely vital that it survives for probably the next 200 years.
 
Dixie Cup
Libertarian
#17
Its one thing to subsidize oil companies if, in the long-run, the funds provides the infrastructure (roads, sewars et al) for the people living and working in the industry since it has long-term implications. However, it's entirely another thing if a government is providing tax dollars for industries simply because.....


Do we know WHY the subsidies are being paid? For what specific reason?
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

Can Anyone Explain Why the Canadian Government is Subsidizing the Fossil Fuel Industries?






Why are we some of the most world’s most profitable companies receiving what amount to public handouts when we are supposedly living in a time of austerity?




In Canada, the federal government subsidizes the fossil fuel industries to the tune of more than $20 billion per year.


Is that what the free market looks like?


Not surprisingly, the bulk of these subsidies are going the oil sector.


Subsidies crowd out public spending on infrastructure, health, education and the social safety net, while driving up budget deficits and the public debt.




http://richardhughes.ca/cowichan-con...el-industries/

How many jobs does the fossil fuel industry provide?


How much tax revenue is generated by the fossil fuel industry?



WHere does the government say they are subsidizing the fossil fuel industry to the tune of 20 billion a year?
 
mentalfloss
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

How many jobs does the fossil fuel industry provide?


How much tax revenue is generated by the fossil fuel industry?



WHere does the government say they are subsidizing the fossil fuel industry to the tune of 20 billion a year?

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Cost some Trillion Annually, According To IMF | Informed Comment
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
+1
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie CupView Post

Its one thing to subsidize oil companies if, in the long-run, the funds provides the infrastructure (roads, sewars et al) for the people living and working in the industry since it has long-term implications. However, it's entirely another thing if a government is providing tax dollars for industries simply because.....


Do we know WHY the subsidies are being paid? For what specific reason?

The vast majority are not subsidies but tax credits which is not the same thing. Most of the rest is R&D.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
+2
#21
Gotta love how the party faithful are willing to defend the indefensible. Party on! Harpo and the collective will be by any time now to collect their dues.
 
B00Mer
Republican
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Gotta love how the party faithful are willing to defend the indefensible. Party on! Harpo and the collective will be by any time now to collect their dues.

Yawn... we know who you vote for..

I love it when I suggest to people that Canada join the USA, they toss the USA's debt in my face... at least they have 350 million people to support the debt.

The debt per capita is not far off from Canada... a country with only 32 million people.

Most Government Debt per Person: Countries - Bloomberg Best (and Worst)

(oh here comes SAL)
 
Corduroy
+3
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

What is important is not so much total spending but where the money is being spent. Infrastructure is a far better long term investment than social programs or the various diversification programs which are little more than expensive welfare programs.

Infrastructure also has social benefits. More bridges for the poor to live under!
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+3
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

WHere does the government say they are subsidizing the fossil fuel industry to the tune of 20 billion a year?

The ideologues say so... In this case, a guy that runs a blog says so

Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Gotta love how the party faithful are willing to defend the indefensible. Party on! Harpo and the collective will be by any time now to collect their dues.

You prepared to return your monthly, direct subsidies?

Yeah, I thought not... In fact, lemme guess, that is your way of stickin' it to da man, right?
Last edited by captain morgan; May 25th, 2014 at 10:48 AM..
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
+1
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Yawn... we know who you vote for..

You don't have a clue who I vote for (or about much else that doesn't involve your genitals).
 
petros
#26
Quote:

Can Anyone Explain Why the Canadian Government is Subsidizing the Fossil Fuel Industries?

They aren't. Where did you get that ridiculous idea?

Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

You don't have a clue who I vote for (or about much else that doesn't involve your genitals).

You don't vote.
 
mentalfloss
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

The ideologues say so... In this case, a guy that runs a blog says so

And you're posting on a message board.
 
petros
+1
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

And you're posting on a message board.

Would you use these boards as a source of fact?
 
mentalfloss
+1
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Would you use these boards as a source of fact?

Not if I'm reading your posts.
 
petros
+1
#30
That's awesome. We know you and fact don't jive therefore you don't like my posts because your view of them is based on pure emotion.
Last edited by petros; May 25th, 2014 at 12:39 PM..
 

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