Harper surprised at how he is supposed to elect a judge


mentalfloss
#1
Stephen Harper surprised at rules for choosing Supreme Court judge

Government will follow both the letter and spirit of the ruling, according to PM

Prime Minister Stephen Harper says he's surprised to learn that Quebec has different rules when it comes to appointing judges to the Supreme Court of Canada.

Speaking in question period, Harper said it was "a big surprise" to discover the rules for appointing Quebec judges to the Supreme Court were different from the rules for appointing judges from other provinces.

Justice Minister Peter MacKay, in explaining his boss' reaction, described the regulations as "new." The rules have been in effect since 1875, although MacKay denies that and says it was an interpretation by the Supreme Court.

Harper was responding to questions in the House of Commons about his government's recent fumbled attempt to name Marc Nadon to the high court.

The Supreme Court itself ruled recently that Nadon, a Federal Court judge, did not fit the criteria to be named to the high court.

'Limits pool of judges': MacKay
Harper has said he will follow the letter and the spirit of the ruling.

MacKay says the decision sets new rules for the nomination of Quebec judges to the Supreme Court.

"It limits the pool of judges who can go to the Federal Court now from Quebec if they have any aspirations of going to the Supreme Court of Canada," he said Tuesday outside the Commons.

"And it limits the pool of eligible judges from the province of Quebec for the Supreme Court of Canada, which I think is unfortunate.

It creates a double standard."

Opposition Leader Tom Mulcair said the situation could have been easily resolved if the government had done its homework.

Stephen Harper surprised at rules for choosing Supreme Court judge
 
Liberalman
#2
Bills turn into laws but the courts decide if the law is good or not.
 
Colpy
Conservative
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Stephen Harper surprised at rules for choosing Supreme Court judge

Government will follow both the letter and spirit of the ruling, according to PM

Prime Minister Stephen Harper says he's surprised to learn that Quebec has different rules when it comes to appointing judges to the Supreme Court of Canada.

Speaking in question period, Harper said it was "a big surprise" to discover the rules for appointing Quebec judges to the Supreme Court were different from the rules for appointing judges from other provinces.

Justice Minister Peter MacKay, in explaining his boss' reaction, described the regulations as "new." The rules have been in effect since 1875, although MacKay denies that and says it was an interpretation by the Supreme Court.

Harper was responding to questions in the House of Commons about his government's recent fumbled attempt to name Marc Nadon to the high court.

The Supreme Court itself ruled recently that Nadon, a Federal Court judge, did not fit the criteria to be named to the high court.

'Limits pool of judges': MacKay
Harper has said he will follow the letter and the spirit of the ruling.

MacKay says the decision sets new rules for the nomination of Quebec judges to the Supreme Court.

"It limits the pool of judges who can go to the Federal Court now from Quebec if they have any aspirations of going to the Supreme Court of Canada," he said Tuesday outside the Commons.

"And it limits the pool of eligible judges from the province of Quebec for the Supreme Court of Canada, which I think is unfortunate.

It creates a double standard."

Opposition Leader Tom Mulcair said the situation could have been easily resolved if the government had done its homework.

Stephen Harper surprised at rules for choosing Supreme Court judge

The useless excuse for a Supreme Court in Canada (who do not even understand the simple concept of free speech) is made up of activist judges who simply did not like Harper's appointment and thus usurped the power of appointment from the PM.
 
Liberalman
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

The useless excuse for a Supreme Court in Canada (who do not even understand the simple concept of free speech) is made up of activist judges who simply did not like Harper's appointment and thus usurped the power of appointment from the PM.

And the PM should have known that if he was any good as a PM
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by LiberalmanView Post

And the PM should have known that if he was any good as a PM


It will be interesting to observe if Harper decides to punish Quebec for this after he wins the next election.
 
Locutus
#6
lol.
 
relic
Free Thinker
+2
#7
Hold 'er newt ! Who nominated the judges that said harpers boy didn't qualify ? He can't even depend on his own plants. Har d har
 
Liberalman
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

It will be interesting to observe if Harper decides to punish Quebec for this after he wins the next election.

All the federal Conservative women MPs are more well rounded due to a lot of stress eating and the finance minister just quit because he knows the writing on the wall and the federal Conservatives ship is sinking fast and the next step is the PM's exit strategy, like Conservative Mulroney and Harris, Harper knows that DEFCON 1 has arrived or Mayday Mayday Mayday All hands abandon ship, All hands abandon ship, All hands abandon ship. Maybe Jean Charest will consider coming back to the party
 
Colpy
Conservative
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by relicView Post

Hold 'er newt ! Who nominated the judges that said harpers boy didn't qualify ? He can't even depend on his own plants. Har d har

Good point, actually.

I checked.

Harper has appointed 5 out of 8.

I guess he could do a better job.......
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
#10

PM Harper ATV Joyride quotI Make The Rulesquot - YouTube

 
Nuggler
+4
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Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

Good point, actually.

I checked.

Harper has appointed 5 out of 8.

I guess he could do a better job.......


I thought it was 7, but, you're correct: 5.

A bacon sandwich could probably do a better job.

( I said that cause I'm hungry )

Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

PM Harper ATV Joyride quotI Make The Rulesquot - YouTube


Harpo sure is one ignorant, antagonistic, fukking as shole.

Hopefully after the next dictatorship shuffle, someone else will be making the rules. Gonna take a long time to correct the fukkups.

Cant' bring back the guys who got killed fighting his phoney as slick war.

Try not to hate as it just takes up too much time and energy.........but, in his case.
 
Trex
#12
I would imagine he was very surprised.
Considering he consulted retired Supreme Court judges Ian Binnie and Louise Charron, along with well respected Canadian constitutional law expert Peter Hogg before the appointment.
And they all saw no problems at all.

Nadon is a maritime law specialist.
My guess is Harper wanted a maritime law specialist on the Supreme court for valid reasons.
We have marine border issues with the US.
We have marine border issues with the Danes and Icelanders.
The northwest passage is up for grabs.
Foreign overfishing in Canadian waters.
American overfishing of Canadian migratory fish.
Multiple foreign claims to resources under Canada's arctic waters.
And an expansionst Russia claiming a huge chunk of the arctics waters as it's own.

So who would want a supreme court judge specializing in marine law?
 
mentalfloss
+1
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IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Weren't you complaining in the other thread about people just posting gifs?
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
+1
#15
I know Quebec is governed by civil law ... and I'm neither Quebecker or Prime Minister
 
mentalfloss
+1
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

Weren't you complaining in the other thread about people just posting gifs?

Yea?
 
Nuggler
+3
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

I know Quebec is governed by civil law ... and I'm neither Quebecker or Prime Minister


Nope. You're a decent Lone Wolf, thank Christ. I'd vote fer ya though.

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Yea?


Yep, but it's ok in this case - That's my bacon sandwich.

Thanks.

Quote: Originally Posted by TrexView Post

I would imagine he was very surprised.
Considering he consulted retired Supreme Court judges Ian Binnie and Louise Charron, along with well respected Canadian constitutional law expert Peter Hogg before the appointment.
And they all saw no problems at all.

Nadon is a maritime law specialist.
My guess is Harper wanted a maritime law specialist on the Supreme court for valid reasons.
We have marine border issues with the US.
We have marine border issues with the Danes and Icelanders.
The northwest passage is up for grabs.
Foreign overfishing in Canadian waters.
American overfishing of Canadian migratory fish.
Multiple foreign claims to resources under Canada's arctic waters.
And an expansionst Russia claiming a huge chunk of the arctics waters as it's own.

So who would want a supreme court judge specializing in marine law?



If he WAS qualified, the great leader wouldn't want him. Look at the knowledgeable people he's fired along the way.

""Prime Minister Stephen Harper says he's surprised to learn that Quebec has different rules when it comes to appointing judges to the Supreme Court of Canada.

Speaking in question period, Harper said it was "a big surprise" to discover the rules for appointing Quebec judges to the Supreme Court were different from the rules for appointing judges from other provinces.""



He didn't know
HE DIDN'T KNOW ??
he did not KNOW !!??
NOpe, he didn't even know, even!!
Nah,. he didn't know.
Like completely didn't know.
Not knowing
being unknowing
He didn't know.

cut the poor ignorant ****er some slack...................HE DIDN'T KNOW.

Helmethead does NOT lie

and , he didn't know.
A big surprise.
Like a Christmas present
Surprise Surprise, Helmet.
You economist you.
You didn't know.
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
#18
...though an expert in Maritime Law might be appropriate when you get a bunch of Senatora all pissing them selves over Court Day
 
Trex
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by NugglerView Post

Nope. You're a decent Lone Wolf, thank Christ. I'd vote fer ya though.




Yep, but it's ok in this case - That's my bacon sandwich.

Thanks.





If he WAS qualified, the great leader wouldn't want him. Look at the knowledgeable people he's fired along the way.

""Prime Minister Stephen Harper says he's surprised to learn that Quebec has different rules when it comes to appointing judges to the Supreme Court of Canada.

Speaking in question period, Harper said it was "a big surprise" to discover the rules for appointing Quebec judges to the Supreme Court were different from the rules for appointing judges from other provinces.""



He didn't know
HE DIDN'T KNOW ??
he did not KNOW !!??
NOpe, he didn't even know, even!!
Nah,. he didn't know.
Like completely didn't know.
Not knowing
being unknowing
He didn't know.

cut the poor ignorant ****er some slack...................HE DIDN'T KNOW.

Helmethead does NOT lie

and , he didn't know.
A big surprise.
Like a Christmas present
Surprise Surprise, Helmet.
You economist you.
You didn't know.

For those to lazy to read up on the story here are the facts.

Nadon HAD practiced law in Quebec.
Nadon HAD been a member of the Quebec bar assc.

Because he had moved on to specializing in marine/maritime law in other provinces he allowed his Quebec bar association membership to lapse.
He was in arrears on his membership dues in other words.

Harper consulted retired Supreme Court judges Ian Binnie and Louise Charron, along with well respected Canadian constitutional law expert Peter Hogg before the appointment.
They saw no issues at all.
So I guess they were surprised as well.

Because Nadon was a past member of the Quebec bar in good standing he could have rented an apartment in QC for a week, paid his bar association fee and be good to go in Quebec as a judge.
And nobody could then stop him from being appointed to the supreme court.
And he still could do that.

But in a very strange ruling the Supremes shot him down over a nitpic.
They ruled on a grey area technicality and set a very weird precedent.
It is assumed the Supremes felt that Nadon was not good enough to be one of "them"; the all knowing, all ruling elite.

From Harpers perspective it does seem that Nadon was a slightly odd choice.
It is assumed Harper wanted a maritime/marine law specialist for reasons I outlined earlier.
Also there is the St. Lawrence seaway issue, if Quebec decides to seperate or hinder transit to the Great Lakes.
On top of that Nadon is rumored to be in favor of decisevely settling all unresolved First Nations claims in the Supreme court for once and all.
And that would sure cut into the old gravy train for a lot of folks including a ton of lawyers.
Cant have that.
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
+1
#20
Well then maybe he should do that and be a resident of convenience. Didn't they just have a bunch of Senators busted for doing the same thing?
 
Nuggler
+1
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by TrexView Post

For those to lazy to read up on the story here are the facts.

Nadon HAD practiced law in Quebec.
Nadon HAD been a member of the Quebec bar assc.

Because he had moved on to specializing in marine/maritime law in other provinces he allowed his Quebec bar association membership to lapse.
He was in arrears on his membership dues in other words.

Harper consulted retired Supreme Court judges Ian Binnie and Louise Charron, along with well respected Canadian constitutional law expert Peter Hogg before the appointment.
They saw no issues at all.
So I guess they were surprised as well.

Because Nadon was a past member of the Quebec bar in good standing he could have rented an apartment in QC for a week, paid his bar association fee and be good to go in Quebec as a judge.
And nobody could then stop him from being appointed to the supreme court.
And he still could do that.

But in a very strange ruling the Supremes shot him down over a nitpic.
They ruled on a grey area technicality and set a very weird precedent.
It is assumed the Supremes felt that Nadon was not good enough to be one of "them"; the all knowing, all ruling elite.

From Harpers perspective it does seem that Nadon was a slightly odd choice.
It is assumed Harper wanted a maritime/marine law specialist for reasons I outlined earlier.
Also there is the St. Lawrence seaway issue, if Quebec decides to seperate or hinder transit to the Great Lakes.
On top of that Nadon is rumored to be in favor of decisevely settling all unresolved First Nations claims in the Supreme court for once and all.
And that would sure cut into the old gravy train for a lot of folks including a ton of lawyers.
Cant have that.


For those who haven't done it yet: get a sense of humour. Or better yet, read the news. "rumored to be in favour" be weasel words. Heard too many of them during the reign of Helmethead.
 
Trex
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by NugglerView Post

For those who haven't done it yet: get a sense of humour. Or better yet, read the news. "rumored to be in favour" be weasel words. Heard too many of them during the reign of Helmethead.

Rumored to be in favor is a phrase that avoids slander issues.
Unlike some others here if I don't really know something I say so.
As to my sense of humor.
It's fine.
The problem is, your not a very funny person.
Last edited by Trex; Apr 2nd, 2014 at 06:26 PM..Reason: sp
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
+1
#23
Like he said: "weasel words". Websters couldn't have described it better.

"For those who haven't done it yet..." Yup... Names one person in particular.
 
Sal
No Party Affiliation
+1
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by NugglerView Post

Nope. You're a decent Lone Wolf, thank Christ. I'd vote fer ya though.




Yep, but it's ok in this case - That's my bacon sandwich.

Thanks.





If he WAS qualified, the great leader wouldn't want him. Look at the knowledgeable people he's fired along the way.

""Prime Minister Stephen Harper says he's surprised to learn that Quebec has different rules when it comes to appointing judges to the Supreme Court of Canada.

Speaking in question period, Harper said it was "a big surprise" to discover the rules for appointing Quebec judges to the Supreme Court were different from the rules for appointing judges from other provinces.""



He didn't know
HE DIDN'T KNOW ??
he did not KNOW !!??
NOpe, he didn't even know, even!!
Nah,. he didn't know.
Like completely didn't know.
Not knowing
being unknowing
He didn't know.

cut the poor ignorant ****er some slack...................HE DIDN'T KNOW.

Helmethead does NOT lie

and , he didn't know.
A big surprise.
Like a Christmas present
Surprise Surprise, Helmet.
You economist you.
You didn't know.

*falls on the floor laughing*
 
Spade
Free Thinker
+4
#25
In a democracy, elected officials respect the rule of law.
Mind you, this is Canada under Con-struction.
 
Nuggler
+1
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by TrexView Post

Rumored to be in favor is a phrase that avoids slander issues.
Unlike some others here if I don't really know something I say so.
As to my sense of humor.
It's fine.
The problem is, your not a very funny person.


Yes I am . ha ha ..........see??

Problem is you don't know your your from your you're.

Go ahead and slander me.
 
tay
+1
#27
 
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