Harper Says He値l Support Israel Even If It Hurts Canada


darkbeaver
Republican
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Harper Says He’ll Support Israel Even If It Hurts Canada Politically

11/09/2010 08:41 AM Jennifer Ditchburn and The Canadian Press

Stephen Harper addresses the 65th General Assembly at UN headquarters in New York on Sept. 23, 2010.
Emmanuel Dunand/AFP/Getty Images

Stephen Harper says he’ll take a forceful stand against anti-Israel rhetoric no matter the political cost to his government at international organizations such as the United Nations and the Francophonie.
The prime minister delivered the opening speech Monday at a two-day conference on anti-Semitism, taking place on Parliament Hill.
He noted Canada’s unsuccessful bid for a UN security council seat this fall, saying he believes the country is morally obligated to stand up against those who would attack Israel.
“And I know, by the way, because I have the bruises to show for it, that whether it is at the United Nations or any other international forum, the easy thing to do is simply to just get along and go along with this anti-Israel rhetoric, to pretend it is just being even-handed, and to excuse oneself with the label of honest broker.
“There are, after all, a lot more votes — a lot more — in being anti-Israel than in taking a stand.”
The reference to “honest broker” was a thinly veiled swipe at Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff.
Ignatieff attacked the Conservative government in a speech this month for sacrificing Canada’s ability to command respect on the issue of peace in the Middle East. Ignatieff said Harper has used Israel as a wedge issue in Canadian politics, and called for a return to a time when Canada was seen as an honest broker in the world.
In a later speech to the same conference, Ignatieff mocked Harper for trying to portray his failure to win a seat on the Security Council as the price to be paid for his unstinting support for Israel.
“To claim a defeat as a moral victory seems to me to be a mistake,” Ignatieff said.
He pointed out that it’s the Security Council that will determine whether sanctions are imposed on Iran, whose Holocaust-denying president refuses to recognize Israel’s right to exist.
“If Canada wishes to defend Israel against Iran, as it should, it would’ve been nice to be on the Security Council of the United Nations,” Ignatieff said.
Ignatieff reiterated what Liberals have long touted as a balanced approach to achieving peace in the Middle East: recognition of two separate states —Israel and Palestine — with justice and security for both.
Nevertheless he added: “Let us also be very clear. A democratic state like Canada cannot be neutral as between a democratic state and a terrorist organization. There is no honest broker between those two.”
One group that was not involved in the anti-Semitism conference, Independent Jewish Voices, criticized the Conservative government for stifling debate on Israel.
“As Jews, we know that the real threat is from the new McCarthyism, and not from so-called new anti-Semitism. We believe that it is legitimate and ethically necessary for Canadians of conscience to criticize Israeli human-rights abuses and to support non-violent remedies,” spokesperson Diana Ralph said in a statement.
“We are calling on Canadian MPs to reject any attempts to silence or criminalize legitimate criticism of Israel, and to defend free speech in Canada.”
Harper said Israel may be subjected to fair criticism, and noted that Israel subjects itself to such criticism as part of a healthy, democratic debate. But he spoke of a “solemn duty” to defend the vulnerable and challenge the aggressor at home and abroad.
“Not just because it is the right thing to do, but because history shows us, and the ideology of the anti-Israel mob tells us all too well, that those who threaten the existence of the Jewish people are in the longer term a threat to all of us.”
— with files from Joan Bryden

(That is the most dangerous man in Canada.)
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
#2
Meh ... he wants to be a war-time PM
 
darkbeaver
Republican
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He wants to be RAPTURED and that's all the monster wants
 
L Gilbert
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PMs usually are the most dangerous people in Canuckville.
 
petros
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4 years later....
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

PMs usually are the most dangerous people in Canuckville.

That is true but this one is a fanatic.
 
WLDB
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Most international alliances are like that. Thats kind of the point - to have friends who will take on some risks to help you.
 
Locutus
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I always forget who the anti-semites and jew lovers are in here. It makes it difficult to follow the conversation at times. Perhaps we could have some sort of special icon or permanent sig so I could keep straight who's who. Kinda like a tattoo. Cool idea?
 
L Gilbert
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Meh. Izzie biz is Izzie biz. I think it can take care of itself.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Qu饕馗ois
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OH NO!!! Harper is risking upsetting the UN!!!

I don't know if I can go on living
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

Meh. Izzie biz is Izzie biz. I think it can take care of itself.

And only itself.

Canada Pays Lip Service to Ukraine Neo-Nazi Government. The Ghosts of Baby Yar By John Bart Gerald (external - login to view), March 23, 2014


擢or his own political reasons, the Canadian PM will continue his apparently unconditional embrace of Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk痴 unelected government. But in private, we must hope, he will tell Yatsenyuk that it is intolerable and unacceptable that his government contains seven ministers connected to the radical right, including members of the extremist Svoboda Party as deputy prime minister and ministers of defence, agriculture and ecology. (Globe and Mail, Toronto, March 21, 2014)
The new and unelected Ukrainian government relies deeply on appointments, traditions, and a nationalism which history identifies as extreme right wing or neo-Nazi. In Canada the Harper government痴 immediate and enthusiastic support for the fascist takeover of a people痴 bid for democracy is treated by the press as normal, with both Canada痴 opposition parties supporting the overt commitment to neo-fascism. I don稚 think it is disloyal to Canada to point out that large portions of the world don稚 like fascists, particularly fascists oriented to white power with a history of murdering Jews, Roma and other minorities.
Canada痴 support is a continuation of its historical support for Ukrainian war criminals guilty of genocide at the end of WWII, but unprosecuted to further their uses to anti-Soviet policies. The Harper government is championing a political structure with its roots in Babi-Yar. Babi Yar is not an example of fascism, it痴 an example of the extremes of Nazism and an inhumanity Europe has been teaching the New World for half a millenium.
Harper痴 swift support of a neo-Nazi beachhead far more advanced than the inroads Golden Dawn has made in Greece, or Jobbik in Hungary, may suggest to Canadians that there is something very abnormal about Canada痴 current political norm.
Even in France the far-right

Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

I always forget who the anti-semites and jew lovers are in here. It makes it difficult to follow the conversation at times. Perhaps we could have some sort of special icon or permanent sig so I could keep straight who's who. Kinda like a tattoo. Cool idea?

Imhave no secrets from you Locutus so since you asked I hate loath and detest Israel which is the most intense anti semitic bunch of pathological lying murdering thieving cutthroats anywhere on the planet who hide behind their faux Jewishness. Just in case you're confused about me.
 
Locutus
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

And only itself.
Canada Pays Lip Service to Ukraine Neo-Nazi Government. The Ghosts of Baby Yar By John Bart Gerald, March 23, 2014
擢or his own political reasons, the Canadian PM will continue his apparently unconditional embrace of Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk痴 unelected government. But in private, we must hope, he will tell Yatsenyuk that it is intolerable and unacceptable that his government contains seven ministers connected to the radical right, including members of the extremist Svoboda Party as deputy prime minister and ministers of defence, agriculture and ecology. (Globe and Mail, Toronto, March 21, 2014)
The new and unelected Ukrainian government relies deeply on appointments, traditions, and a nationalism which history identifies as extreme right wing or neo-Nazi. In Canada the Harper government痴 immediate and enthusiastic support for the fascist takeover of a people痴 bid for democracy is treated by the press as normal, with both Canada痴 opposition parties supporting the overt commitment to neo-fascism. I don稚 think it is disloyal to Canada to point out that large portions of the world don稚 like fascists, particularly fascists oriented to white...

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Nah, it's cool. I really didn't remember which members get picked on for whatever side it is they believe in. I could care less myself.
 
petros
#13
The majority of the million voters of Ukrainian descent are in AB SK and MB the same places that got him his majority. Harper would be complete moron to not support the people of Ukraine but keep a distance from the Svoboda party policy, focus on stability and defense and election supervision when the time comes.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

OH NO!!! Harper is risking upsetting the UN!!!

I don't know if I can go on living

Don't forget the Francophoney Summit .
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

I always forget who the anti-semites and jew lovers are in here. It makes it difficult to follow the conversation at times. Perhaps we could have some sort of special icon or permanent sig so I could keep straight who's who. Kinda like a tattoo. Cool idea?

I would suggest what labels would be fitting but ........
 
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