Long Gun Confiscation in Canada.....yet again.


Colpy
Conservative
+2
#1
Swiss Arms Confiscated



Effective 10:00 pm eastern tonight the RCMP has reclassified the Swiss Arms Classic Green carbine from non-restricted (and restricted) to prohibited status. There are approximately 1,000 -1,800 of these firearms in the public. The government will not be offering compensation and will be demanding that the firearms, which cost between $3,000 - $4,000 be surrendered. The government is suggesting that all affected firearms owners contact the distributers from which the firearms were purchased for reimbursement.

The NFA encourages all affected owners to contact their federal Member of Parliament.
This is part of an ongoing agenda of the RCMP to progressively prohibit firearms in Canada.

Under Bill C-68, the firearms classification system was supposed to be updated regularly to prohibit firearms being introduced into the market, as well as those already in Canada.

The Government of Canada was supposed to assist in this with periodic new legislation and Order in Council (OIC).

The RCMP have been doing this unilaterally since 2006.
Access to information records show that RCMP have an aggressive firearms reclassification agenda, and that prohibitions will not stop with the Swiss Arms Series Rifles.
These rifles were approved for import by the RCMP have been sold in Canada for over a decade. Owners once held registrations for them under the now defunct long gun registry.
There has never been a crime or incident of violence committed with one of these rifles.

NFA condemns this RCMP assault on the rights and private property of law abiding Canadians. The RCMP has shown contempt for the rights of Canadians by their actions, and we expect the Government of Canada to take steps and introduce measures to reign in the RCMP and end the assault against the rights, property and freedoms of Canadians.

For more information contact:
Blair Hagen, Executive VP Communications, Blair@nfa.ca (external - login to view)
Sheldon Clare, President, Sheldon@nfa.ca (external - login to view)
Canada’s NFA – info@nfa.ca (external - login to view)
NFA Website: www.nfa.ca (external - login to view)
 
Goober
Free Thinker
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#2
Reason was??? Possibly that it could be changed from semi to full auto? Magazine up to 30 rounds? Not sure why?
No links as to the reasoning.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#3
Looks like it wasn't just a Liberal plan to confiscate weapons
 
Goober
Free Thinker
+1
#4
The RCMP does not make this decision by themselves now does it?

Updated. You may wish to update.
Last edited by Goober; Feb 27th, 2014 at 02:16 PM..
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
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#5
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

The RCMP does make this decision by themselves now does it?

It does if it's allowed to.
 
Goober
Free Thinker
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

The RCMP does not make this decision by themselves now does it?

Updated..

Corrected.
 
Colpy
Conservative
+1
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Reason was??? Possibly that it could be changed from semi to full auto? Magazine up to 30 rounds? Not sure why?
No links as to the reasoning.

The last ones they prohibited were classed as Kalishnikov (AK 47) variants...........they were blow-back .22 Long Rifle. Obviously, they shared absolutely nothing in common....except a silouhette.

These were probably banned because they look like something that the RCMP don't like the look of....

Welcome to the nascent police state.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#8
This is just stupid. Do you have any effective way to resist this crap, Colpy?
 
Goober
Free Thinker
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

The last ones they prohibited were classed as Kalishnikov (AK 47) variants...........they were blow-back .22 Long Rifle. Obviously, they shared absolutely nothing in common....except a silouhette.

These were probably banned because they look like something that the RCMP don't like the look of....

Welcome to the nascent police state.

I asked if they can be easily converted to full auto as I do not know the weapon specs. All I have for info are photos on the Net.
 
gerryh
+3
#10
Swiss Arms in Canada: The Full Story | TV-PressPass: IWI Tavor TAR-21 (external - login to view)

Canada’s gun-classification system called ‘deeply flawed’ | canada.com
 
Nuggler
+3
#11
Keerist!! I gotta hide my .410 SS yet again.


perhaps lol.


I had a gunsmith cut down the barrel (legally) to 19.5 " and replace the firing pin.


He was quite enthused about a semi auto Russian army rifle he had for sale, out of the box, with a fold down bayonet, for less than $300.00. Saigent, Savant, or somesuch. Said it would make a nice deer rifle.
Once the deer's on the ground you can charge, and gut the fuc*er. Up, under, and twist.
Told him I didn't hunt deer. He seemed unhappy. But, did a nice job on the .410.
Just a story. Nothing to do with the ArcyMP confiscating stuff. They should really confine themselves to tasering immigrants to death - their forte for sure.
Last edited by Nuggler; Feb 27th, 2014 at 07:59 PM..
 
petros
+4
#12
Well Colpy, I warned ya but nope, you thought Harper was Moses delivering freedom to the masses.
 
WLDB
No Party Affiliation
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Looks like it wasn't just a Liberal plan to confiscate weapons

The Liberals arent in power and havent been for nearly a decade.
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by WLDBView Post

The Liberals arent in power and havent been for nearly a decade.

Set up to be set upon?
 
Goober
Free Thinker
lone wolf
Free Thinker
+2
#16
They've got to have conflicting laws. How else are they going to find clients for superjails?
 
Colpy
Conservative
+1
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Well Colpy, I warned ya but nope, you thought Harper was Moses delivering freedom to the masses.

LOL!!

Nope.

I thought Harper was the best of the lot.

I'm still of that opinion.

Quote: Originally Posted by WLDBView Post

The Liberals arent in power and havent been for nearly a decade.

Yeah....but they set this mess up.
 
gerryh
+1
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post



Yeah....but they set this mess up.

How so, the gun registry is dead. The Con's killed it........ or did they?
 
Colpy
Conservative
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#19
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

How so, the gun registry is dead. The Con's killed it........ or did they?

They did kill the registry.......as they promised.

But the Firearms Act lives on.

The classification system is idiotic. Guns with less than 105mm barrels are banned, as are handguns of .25 and .32 caliber....the two weakest handgun rounds. So instead, they shoot you with a 5 inch barreled .357 Magnum, or 9mm etc., or that seems to be the rationale, which is nonsense anyway..........what a legal owner can have has absolutely no relation to use by criminals.

560,000 handguns are prohibited by this rule, and will be seized when those grandfathered to own them die off. BTW, 4 inches is a standard handgun length, the Liberals made the limit 105mm instead of the nice round 100mm just to get all those 4" guns......

The current problem seems to be with full auto classification.........guns that WERE full auto are banned, even if they are converted to semi-auto. This is simply silly, as mechanically they are so close to identical it is hard to tell them apart....as the RCMP having to travel to Switzerland to figure things out shows quite clearly.

My understanding is that Swiss males, when they reach the end of their militia service, are allowed to keep the full auto rifles they used....as long as they are converted to semi-auto only. Thus the confusion.....there is NO WAY to tell the difference, unless you go through serial numbers to determine which gun was originally produced as full auto, as some were produced as semi auto. Used guns imported to Canada may have been either, and except for the serial number, they are identical.

Simply VERY bad law. .
 
mentalfloss
#20
This must be terribly important to some people.
 
B00Mer
Republican
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#21
...and under a Trudeau government expect even less gun rights...

Nothing to do with a Hockey game that Russia lost.

Charlton Heston quotMy Cold DEAD Handsquot NRA Speech - YouTube

 
Colpy
Conservative
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#22
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

This must be terribly important to some people.

Ahhh yes....the 1800 people that are about to have 3 or 4 thousand dollars stolen from them by the gov't.....I think that would make it fairly important.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by WLDBView Post

The Liberals arent in power and havent been for nearly a decade.

I think we're all aware of that but thanks for the update anyway
 
Colpy
Conservative
+4
#24
Ezra takes a run at it.....and he is dead on.

RCMP gun grab | Ezra Levant (external - login to view)
 
L Gilbert
No Party Affiliation
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#25
Geeez. They keep up with this sorta crap the jails will have more farmers n target shooters n hunters in them than real criminals. F'n pile of a$$hats.

Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

Yeah....but they set this mess up.

Pretty much. Bunch of daintya$$, PC, city-dwelling, hysterical NIMBYs started the whole inane mess with their kneejerk, irrational reaction to some jerk shooting up a classroom a decade or so ago. Gawd some people really need to grow some brains.
 
Nuggler
+1
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

Ahhh yes....the 1800 people that are about to have 3 or 4 thousand dollars stolen from them by the gov't.....I think that would make it fairly important.


People can do with their money what they like, but................4K for a freakin gun ?!
One would have to be a serious collector, or rich, or both, or nuts, or both.
Still, the arseyMP should confine themselves to tasering immigrants (repetition, I know).
We paid for their trip to Sweden to investigate firearms. Stupid stupid us.
 
L Gilbert
No Party Affiliation
+1
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

This must be terribly important to some people.

Ya think? If you're like most guys, it'd be like forking over your wife's engagement ring (costwise) while the dude you'd be handing it to was looking at you as if you were a murdering rapist.

Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

Ezra takes a run at it.....and he is dead on.

RCMP gun grab | Ezra Levant (external - login to view)

That guest speaker pretty much had the implications dead on.

F'k I'm pissed. Maybe it's time the entire batch of ArseyMP (thanks,Nuggs) bureaucrats be keelhauled and left for the bottomfeeders in some swamp.
 
DaSleeper
#28
It's not the rank and file RCMP s making those new rules......It's the political type desk jockeys at the top.
 
El Barto
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#29
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

It's not the rank and file RCMP s making those new rules......It's the political type desk jockeys at the top.

Wait ! say it ain't so
But the Liberals are out and the Conservatives are in.......... ohhhh this is so going to mess with Colpy's head
 
DaSleeper
+1
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by El BartoView Post

Wait ! say it ain't so
But the Liberals are out and the Conservatives are in.......... ohhhh this is so going to mess with Colpy's head

Maybe I should have spelled it out "the political type desk jockeys in the RCMP"
Whose power over the firearm selection was given by the "Liberals"
I know this is confusing for some, but Harper promised to do away with the registry.....which he did....But the firearms act of 1998 lives on.
 

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