Ford siding with Trudeau on pot


mentalfloss
#1
The streams have crossed!

Rob Ford talks about legalizing marijuana with U.S. radio hosts

Mayor Rob Ford spoke about legalizing marijuana with a D.C. radio show Thursday morning.

The hosts of Sports Junkies, Eric Bickel and John-Paul Flaim, were discussing legalization of recreational marijuana in America before Ford came on the show. They asked Ford about legalization in Canada.

“It’s not going to happen up here maybe down in the States but not up here,” said Ford saying the reason was because of the Conservative government.

“Why wouldn’t they decriminalize it and try to get revenue from it? But that’s a debate that’s been going on for years in Canada. We have medicinal marijuana so a lot of people who are sick use it but they won’t legalize it or decriminalize.”

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captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
#2
Not really a surprise there
 
BornRuff
+1
#3
It would be a crime if they also didn't ask him about legalizing crack.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+1
#4
They ought to put that question to Shiny Pony
 
BornRuff
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

They ought to put that question to Shiny Pony

I don't know all the nicknames, but do you mean Trudeau?

He has already spoken about that quite a bit.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
#6
I do mean Trudeau.... I was unaware that he spoke specifically to hard drugs like crack
 
BornRuff
#7
Oh, I thought you were talking about the OP. No, he has just talked a lot about legalizing weed.

I don't think we would have to take much of a leap to guess what Justin would say about legalizing crack. It would be more interesting to hear the thoughts of a guy who has been so tied up in issues around crack use.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+1
#8
It'd be fun to grill baby-t (Justine) on the issue
 
BornRuff
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

It'd be fun to grill baby-t (Justine) on the issue

What do you think he would say?

It seems like a pretty straightforward issues for him.

With Ford, it is more fun. If he thinks it should be illegal, then why would he do it himself while in public office?
 
Zipperfish
No Party Affiliation
#10
I don't imagine it's just Ford and Trudeau who think this. With Washington adn Colorado effectively legalizing it, the hole is in the dam.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+1
#11
There isn't much he can say really... As he has provided some pseudo-support for legalizing pot, it would be difficult for him to say one drug is acceptable while another is unacceptable.

Chances are that the 'answer' would be a big steaming pile of political psycho-babble that we have come to expect from all politicians
 
BornRuff
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

There isn't much he can say really... As he has provided some pseudo-support for legalizing pot, it would be difficult for him to say one drug is acceptable while another is unacceptable.

Chances are that the 'answer' would be a big steaming pile of political psycho-babble that we have come to expect from all politicians

That is dumb. Not every substance is the same. Legalizing pot doesn't imply that you have to support legalizing all other drugs.

Weed has been shown to be pretty harmless, while crack is extremely addictive and takes a serious toll on your health.
 
damngrumpy
No Party Affiliation
#13
In this case he makes sense it should be legalized. I will never use it and have no
interest in using it but like booze prohibition all the old nonsense about health and
other issues are repeated. Face it those who are going to use it are going to do it
regardless of risk. All these warnings are little more than scare tactics for the rest
of the population to react negatively
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

What do you think he would say?

It seems like a pretty straightforward issues for him.

With Ford, it is more fun. If he thinks it should be illegal, then why would he do it himself while in public office?

Ford never said he thinks it should be illegal. He just stated that that is the way it is with a conservative government.

Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

That is dumb. Not every substance is the same. Legalizing pot doesn't imply that you have to support legalizing all other drugs.

Weed has been shown to be pretty harmless, while crack is extremely addictive and takes a serious toll on your health.

Really all drugs should be legal to use. It would cut crime and make it so much easier to treat addiction problems. addiction is properly a mental issue, not a criminal one.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

I don't know all the nicknames, but do you mean Trudeau?

Trudeau is Shiny pony.

Ford is dead horse. :rimshot:
 
Walter
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

Weed has been shown to be pretty harmless,

Right.


DrugFacts: Marijuana | National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA)

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Really all drugs should be legal to use.

Agreed.


milton-friedman-why-drugs-should-be
 
mentalfloss
+1
#17
Drugs.

Bringing neocons and socialists together since 2008.
 
Zipperfish
No Party Affiliation
#18
Yeah, in theory I guess I support legalization of all drugs--harm reduction and all that, social liberatarianism adn all that. In practice, I can't bring myself to accept that. Meth will kill you in a few years, and even if you crawl out of that hole you will never be the same again. I've seen it. I just can't see my way clear to accepting legalization of crack and meth.
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by ZipperfishView Post

Yeah, in theory I guess I support legalization of all drugs--harm reduction and all that, social liberatarianism adn all that. In practice, I can't bring myself to accept that. Meth will kill you in a few years, and even if you crawl out of that hole you will never be the same again. I've seen it. I just can't see my way clear to accepting legalization of crack and meth.

Well consider that being illegal has not stopped their use.
 
mentalfloss
#20
Keep it to pot and maybe.. maybe MDMA
 
BornRuff
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Ford never said he thinks it should be illegal. He just stated that that is the way it is with a conservative government.

We were talking about crack in this post, not weed. We are wondering what they would say about the question of legalizing crack.

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Really all drugs should be legal to use. It would cut crime and make it so much easier to treat addiction problems. addiction is properly a mental issue, not a criminal one.

Canada is pretty much at the point of treating addiction as a mental health issue. We don't really have people in jail just for being a weed, crack, or heroine user. If you come forward and say you have a problem, nobody is going to call the cops.

In Canada, it is illegal to sell food or consumer products that hurt people, so I think some of that logic needs to flow into these substances too. We already have a lot of support set up to help people who are addicted to these drugs, but I can't see how we can support products like crack or heroine that are so profoundly harmful.
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
+1
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Odd thing is if you substitute the word "alcohol" for "marijuana" and it's just as correct. High is high. One gets tax revenues from users. One costs money to make criminals of users.
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Well consider that being illegal has not stopped their use.

We can't really think just in binary terms. It isn't really about if it is simply used or not, but how much use there is.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

We were talking about crack in this post, not weed. We are wondering what they would say about the question of legalizing crack.


It's a slippery slope and one that politicians shy away from
 
BornRuff
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

It's a slippery slope and one that politicians shy away from

It doesn't have to be. Things can and should be decided on their merits.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
#26
You're dreaming.
 
WLDB
No Party Affiliation
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Legalize or decriminalize all of it. Portugal seems to be doing alright for itself after a similar move. I have no interest in ever doing any drug again (aside from the occasional drink or medications as needed). Thats just me though. Its our bodies. We should be able to be the ones who decides what goes in them good or bad. Not someone else.
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

We were talking about crack in this post, not weed. We are wondering what they would say about the question of legalizing crack.



Canada is pretty much at the point of treating addiction as a mental health issue. We don't really have people in jail just for being a weed, crack, or heroine user. If you come forward and say you have a problem, nobody is going to call the cops.

In Canada, it is illegal to sell food or consumer products that hurt people, so I think some of that logic needs to flow into these substances too. We already have a lot of support set up to help people who are addicted to these drugs, but I can't see how we can support products like crack or heroine that are so profoundly harmful.

WE support the consumption of pharmaceuticals that are clearly dangerous just because some drug company wants to make a huge profit. Ever hear of thalidomide? I can make a long list if you really want.
The whole idea of making them legal is to keep the cops off the users and the users from needing to steal to support their habits and instead to get them into rehab. Currently there is a huge profit in illegal drugs and keeping possession illegal is what drives the high price and high costs of dealing with the actions caused by addictions. If possession is not a crime it takes a lot of the profit motive away from the criminal element that prey on addicts.
 
tay
#29
I would like to hear everyone's pros and cons in legalizing alcohol if it was a newly discovered product.




Of course Ford has gone against Harper on this and now the Toronto right wing radio stations are saying 'he isn't really a Conservative'.


I love how they turn on each other..............










 

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