Canada is headed in the wrong direction, majority says


mentalfloss
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Canada is headed in the wrong direction, majority says in poll

Support for Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s government is dropping sharply, according to a new poll showing a majority of Canadians believe the country is headed in the wrong direction.

The Nanos Research poll also shows 56 per cent of people rate the government’s 2013 performance as “somewhat poor” or “very poor,” a far higher share than the poll had found in earlier years. In particular, 44 per cent of respondents in the Prairies said the government’s 2013 performance was “very poor,” signalling unrest in the Harper Conservatives’ backyard.

The figures come from the annual “Mood of Canada” poll, conducted by Nanos and the Institute for Research on Public Policy (IRPP) and released Monday. The results are bleak for a government that has spent months coping with the fallout of the Senate spending scandal, which has triggered an RCMP investigation and raised questions about the conduct of those in Mr. Harper’s own office.

The Senate scandal differs from previous controversies in that it directly implicates the Prime Minister, who has been tasked with personally defending his handling of the issue, pollster Nik Nanos said.

“There was always a bit of a buffer. This year was the first year where the Prime Minister was very closely associated with the controversy, specifically the Senate controversy,” he said. “… I think we can now mark 2013 as the year that Stephen Harper’s personal brand took a hit.”

In the Mood of Canada survey’s seven-year history, this year’s results set new lows for the government: 55 per cent said Canada is headed in the “wrong direction,” while the poll had never shown that figure to be higher than 38 per cent. Another 38 per cent said government had a “very poor” year, more than double what the poll had ever shown. And 45 per cent said Canada’s reputation was “not improved” internationally this year; 8 per cent said the same a year ago.

The Senate scandal “has had a significant spillover effect in how people are viewing the government writ-large,” Mr. Nanos said.

Canada is headed in the wrong direction, majority says in poll - The Globe and Mail
 
Spade
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We are not alone.

Chris Hedges Sits Down With Bill Moyers - YouTube


Many analogues here in Canada to what Hedges claims is occurring in the US.
 
Walter
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Why don't the pollsters ever ask, "In what direction would you like the country to go?"
 
pgs
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Why don't the pollsters ever ask, "In what direction would you like the country to go?"

Its a Nik Nanos poll hence designed to get the results they wish for .
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Canada is headed in the wrong direction, majority says in poll

Support for Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s government is dropping sharply, according to a new poll showing a majority of Canadians believe the country is headed in the wrong direction.

The Nanos Research poll also shows 56 per cent of people rate the government’s 2013 performance as “somewhat poor” or “very poor,” a far higher share than the poll had found in earlier years. In particular, 44 per cent of respondents in the Prairies said the government’s 2013 performance was “very poor,” signalling unrest in the Harper Conservatives’ backyard.

The figures come from the annual “Mood of Canada” poll, conducted by Nanos and the Institute for Research on Public Policy (IRPP) and released Monday. The results are bleak for a government that has spent months coping with the fallout of the Senate spending scandal, which has triggered an RCMP investigation and raised questions about the conduct of those in Mr. Harper’s own office.

The Senate scandal differs from previous controversies in that it directly implicates the Prime Minister, who has been tasked with personally defending his handling of the issue, pollster Nik Nanos said.

“There was always a bit of a buffer. This year was the first year where the Prime Minister was very closely associated with the controversy, specifically the Senate controversy,” he said. “… I think we can now mark 2013 as the year that Stephen Harper’s personal brand took a hit.”

In the Mood of Canada survey’s seven-year history, this year’s results set new lows for the government: 55 per cent said Canada is headed in the “wrong direction,” while the poll had never shown that figure to be higher than 38 per cent. Another 38 per cent said government had a “very poor” year, more than double what the poll had ever shown. And 45 per cent said Canada’s reputation was “not improved” internationally this year; 8 per cent said the same a year ago.

The Senate scandal “has had a significant spillover effect in how people are viewing the government writ-large,” Mr. Nanos said.

Canada is headed in the wrong direction, majority says in poll - The Globe and Mail


Not really surprising, Mr. Harper refuses to get rid of the drones and parasites known as the Senate (who are supposed to be the conscience of Parliament). Actually disgusting individuals!
 
taxslave
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All depends on how the questions are worded and where the polling is done.As in who is paying for the poll. Most people I talk to are fairly happy with the general direction the government is going although Harper generally rates lower than the government.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Not really surprising, Mr. Harper refuses to get rid of the drones and parasites known as the Senate (who are supposed to be the conscience of Parliament). Actually disgusting individuals!

To be fair to Harper, he has limited power to reform it or cancel it.
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

To be fair to Harper, he has limited power to reform it or cancel it.

But he said he would so the sheeple that know nothing of how government actually works think he can just snap his fingers and presto all the wrongs in the country are righted.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Why don't the pollsters ever ask, "In what direction would you like the country to go?"

If they were happier where they were Wally.....
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

If they were happier where they were Wally.....

Come again.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

If they were happier where they were Wally.....

The problem is, two people could be happy with the current situation, but for radically different reasons.
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

The problem is, two people could be happy with the current situation, but for radically different reasons.

For sure anyone in the Senate is happy with the current situation.
 
Zipperfish
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I didn't even know we were going in a direction. Seems a rather unfocussed government right now. That's what happens when politics trumps policy. Every incident is exploited for maximum political gain, but there is no thread holding it together.

I don't think it's like the US right now though. They are in a much more volatile situation.
 
Sal
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The problem is, how does one heal a corrupt system which functions and oils itself and grows and prospers on greed, malice, and avarice and screwing the little guy while at the same time convincing the little guy, he is not the little guy?

This is not a Harper problem, it is a systemic problem. Of course people aren't happy with where the government is headed...it's heading to hell because now the disease has been exposed...how do we fix it? Where are all the good doctors when ya need them?
 
Cannuck
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Leading Questions - Yes Prime Minister - YouTube

 
taxslave
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A lot of truth in that one.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

For sure anyone in the Senate is happy with the current situation.

Sorry, I was referring to polls. Two people might dislike the current situation, but want ot go in opposite directions. One might say, democratize it. Another might say disband it, Another might say transform it some other way. So telling the pollster you're not happy with the current situation does not say much. Wally is right, asking where we want to go rather than with whether we're happy with ehere we are is far more useful.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Come again.

You're confused? Why am I not surprised?
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Not really surprising, Mr. Harper refuses to get rid of the drones and parasites known as the Senate (who are supposed to be the conscience of Parliament). Actually disgusting individuals!

Mr. Harper is refusing? How about Ottawa is refusing. There are plenty of politicians who beat the reform or abolish drum until they actually get into government. The truth is that we would have to completely revamp how parliament works if we wanted to abolish the senate. Doing so would cost a ton of dough, much more than Duffy's scandal. You find me a politician that will actually tackle that problem and I'll vote for him or her. But the fact is you won't.
 
Cliffy
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Harpo is taking Canada in the direction of being a province in a corporate run world government, just like every other leader of their country today. He has no choice but to obey the masters if he wants to keep his head on his shoulders.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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In response to the survey, Harper has ordered the steering wheel of Canada turned in a random direction.
 
DaSleeper
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Harpo is taking Canada in the direction of being a province in a corporate run world government, just like every other leader of their country today. He has no choice but to obey the masters if he wants to keep his head on his shoulders.


It's holiday time
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

In response to the survey, Harper has ordered the steering wheel of Canada turned in a random direction.

If we're heading in the wrong direction, then your proposal should definitely fix things, right?
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

If we're heading in the wrong direction, then your proposal should definitely fix things, right?

Helter skelter... dodge the truth.
 
petros
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Cliffy, on this link EDGAR Search Results you'll find info on almost every corporation you are part owner of.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Helter skelter... dodge the truth.

What truth? That a poll asking if we're heading in the wrong direction rather than in what direction we ought to be going is pointless.

To take a concrete example, two provinsial elections ago, the Liberals defended the Separate School System while the Greens supported a single school system and the Conservatives supported increasing funding more equally for all religious schools.

Now immagine a poll asking then if you supported the separate school system. Even if a majority said they opposed it, it still wouldn't answer in what direction they really wanted to go.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

What truth? That a poll asking if we're heading in the wrong direction rather than in what direction we ought to be going is pointless.

To take a concrete example, two provinsial elections ago, the Liberals defended the Separate School System while the Greens supported a single school system and the Conservatives supported increasing funding more equally for all religious schools.

Now immagine a poll asking then if you supported the separate school system. Even if a majority said they opposed it, it still wouldn't answer in what direction they really wanted to go.

Do you really think the ruling class give a rats azz what people think? They control the direction we are going in. They publish polls to make you think you have choice.
 
damngrumpy
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Polls mean nothing until six weeks before an election. Remember also a poll is a
snapshot in time. I do think this poll along with the last three Angus Reid Polls are
showing a trend of unrest. Two things account for this the scandal of the Tories in
the Senate and the old we have had enough theory after a party is in power too
long. Harper has gone slowly but Canadians are getting to the edge of the ole
comfort zone they don't want privatization of social programs and they want the
social safety net to remain. Harper is stepping over the edge of that zone and is
losing those who cautiously followed. The conservatives are in trouble because
they must satisfy the old Reform base at the expense of where Canadians want to
go and he risks losing the race either way he turns. Should this brand of Tory
members lose I think they will unravel and the Progressive Conservatives will rise
from the ashes of the old Reform. While polls at this time don't mean much there
is a feeling for change in the air.
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

In response to the survey, Harper has ordered the steering wheel of Canada turned in a random direction.

Not random. just a slight curve to the middle of the road. Which is far better than the left ditch we were cruising in.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Not random. just a slight curve to the middle of the road. Which is far better than the left ditch we were cruising in.

Whatever. I have confidence in Canada. I've visited often, done some work there, and there's nothing wrong with Canada that the Canadian people can't or won't fix, quickly and with a minimum of fuss. They're good folk.

Yeah, Canadians, you've just been complimented. Deal with it.
 

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