190 countries agree to climate change 'contribution' deal

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UN climate change deal breaks deadlock

More than 190 countries agreed in Warsaw to start preparing "contributions" for the new deal, which is supposed to be adopted in 2015.

That term was adopted after China and India objected to the word "commitments" in a standoff with the U.S. and other developed countries.

The fast-growing economies say they are still developing countries and shouldn't have to take on as strict commitments to cut carbon emissions as industrialized nations.

"In the nick of time, negotiators in Warsaw delivered just enough to keep things moving," said Jennifer Morgan, of the World Resources Institute, an environmental think tank.

The conference also advanced a program to reduce deforestation and established a "loss and damage" mechanism to help island states and other vulnerable countries under threat from rising seas, extreme weather and other climate impacts.

The wording was vague enough to make rich countries feel comfortable that they weren't going to be held liable for climate catastrophes in the developing world.

U.S. and other rich countries also resisted demands to put down firm commitments on how they plan to fulfill a pledge to scale up climate financing to developing countries to $100 billion by 2020.

That money is meant to help developing countries transition to cleaner energy sources and adapt to shifts in climate that can affect agriculture, human health and economies in general.

"I think we had a good outcome in the end. It was quite a tough negotiation," U.S. climate envoy Todd Stern said.

CBC News - UN climate change deal breaks deadlock
 

Blackleaf

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No matter which way you slice it, any deal without equal commitments from India and China is not worth the paper it is signed on.

Why's that? Are your ski slopes melting?

I'm of the opinion that 500 years from now people will be looking back to the early 21st Century and look upon us believing that a few "unusual" climatic events were caused by Global Warming in the same way that we now look back to the 17th Century and people's beliefs that the deaths of livestock on the village farm were caused by the witch in the cottage next door. They'd look back on us as primitive simpletons who believe in silly hokum pokum.
 
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captain morgan

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Too bad they didn't provide a list of the 190 nations that have signed-on... Likely the same nations that stormed-out of these talks a week or so ago over their tantrum that they weren't being given 100's of billions on the spot
 

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What the f-ck is a climate catastrophe?

Snow on the west coast.

Still smells like a financial redistribution scheme. How many of those demanding a billion$$$$$ of our money every year even have any heavy industry? Or coal fired generating stations?
 

captain morgan

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Still smells like a financial redistribution scheme. How many of those demanding a billion$$$$$ of our money every year even have any heavy industry? Or coal fired generating stations?


They don't have it yet, that's what the cash is for... That and funding more global warming conferences at high-end resorts in a tropical location
 

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What the f-ck is a climate catastrophe?

Whatever it is, it's not happening in Canada. Truth be told it's actually good for us.
Lol

In other countries it's a really bad thing.
Sucks to be them.
 
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As soon as Harper finishes with his Senate reform project he will tackle climate change and he did promise that by 2050 it should be under control.