Kenney defies PM over abortion motion

[Locutus]

as leadership jockeying begins



Wednesday night’s defeat in the House of Commons of a motion to study when life begins is more a reversal of fortune than a coup de grace to the hopes of pro-lifers.

Conservative MP Stephen Woodworth’s motion would have set up a parliamentary committee to examine the current definition of a human being, which says children become human at the moment of complete birth.


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[relic]

I don't believe kenney defied anything,the whole thing was scripted.

 

[TenPenny]

Yes, I expect that Harper allowed it to go forward, knowing that it wouldn't go anywhere, thus placating the nutbars without changing the status quo.

Shades of 'Yes, Prime Minister', for certain.

 

[Colpy]

Yes, I expect that Harper allowed it to go forward, knowing that it wouldn't go anywhere, thus placating the nutbars without changing the status quo.

Shades of 'Yes, Prime Minister', for certain.

So, anyone that disagrees, that thinks there should be some limitation on abortion is a "nutbar"??/

Man, you have labeled a large section of the Canadian population.

 

[TenPenny]

So, anyone that disagrees, that thinks there should be some limitation on abortion is a "nutbar"??/

Man, you have labeled a large section of the Canadian population.

Man, you have to stop using your own prejudices to label other people.

I was referring to the nutbars in the conservative party, not the Canadian population.

 

[petros]

Votes bought, motion delivered, motion struck down as expected, votes still good for two more years.

Welcome to politics.

 

[Colpy]

Man, you have to stop using your own prejudices to label other people.

I was referring to the nutbars in the conservative party, not the Canadian population.

lol

That would still be over a third of the population...........supporters of, anyway.

 

[petros]

1/3? Yeah I'd say 1/3 of Canadians are nutbars. 5 Star Nutbars

 

[Colpy]

New poll shows most Canadians support abortion

Read it.

It is very interesting, the title does not tell the whole story.

 

[petros]

I'm strongly opposed to abortion not because I'm Catholic or poitically motivated. It's killing our species.

Screw the whales or polar bears. Save ourselves dammit.

 

[TenPenny]

And here's proof:

The yeas (91):
Ablonczy (Minister of State for Foreign Affairs)
Albrecht
Allen (Tobique--Mactaquac)
Allison
Ambler
Ambrose (Public Works Minister and Minister responsible for Status of Women)
Anders
Anderson
Benoit
Bergen
Bezan
Block
Boughen
Breitkreuz
Brown (Leeds--Grenville)
Brown (Newmarket--Aurora)
Brown (Barrie)
Bruinooge
Calkins
Cannan
Carrie
Chong
Clarke
Davidson
Del Mastro
Devolin
Dreeshen
Fantino (Minister of International Development)
Fast (Minister of International Trade)
Galipeau
Gallant
Goldring
Grewal
Harris (Cariboo--Prince George)
Hawn
Hayes
Hiebert
Hillyer
James
Jean
Kamp (Pitt Meadows--Maple Ridge--Mission)
Karygiannis
Kenney (Calgary Southeast) Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism
Komarnicki
Lake
Lamoureux
Lauzon
Lemieux
Lizon
Lobb
Lukiwski
Lunney
MacAulay
Mayes
McColeman
McKay (Scarborough--Guildwood)
Merrifield
Miller
Moore (Fundy Royal)
Norlock
O'Neill Gordon
Opitz
Payne
Penashue (Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs)
Poilievre
Rajotte
Rathgeber
Ritz (Minister of Agriculture)
Seeback
Shea (Minister of National Revenue)
Shipley
Sorenson
Storseth
Strahl
Sweet
Toet
Trost
Tweed
Van Kesteren
Van Loan (Government House Leader)
Vellacott
Warawa
Warkentin
Watson
Weston (West Vancouver--Sunshine Coast--Sea to Sky Country)
Weston (Saint John)
Williamson
Wong (Minister of State for Seniors)
Woodworth
Young (Oakville)
Zimmer

 

[Corduroy]

From a strictly scientific standpoint, examining when life begins is a worthwhile exercise. But would you trust something like that to Parliament?

1/3? Yeah I'd say 1/3 of Canadians are nutbars. 5 Star Nutbars

1/3 above average intelligence
1/3 average intelligence
1/3 nutbar

Simple averages

 

[petros]

And the remaining 1%?

 

[Corduroy]

I didn't say 33%. I said 1/3, which is 33.333333etc.forever%. And so would add up to a clean 100%.

 

[petros]

π = yummy

 

[PoliticalNick]

Umm, hello people....when life begins? Life began a couple of billion years ago! The procreation of our species I'd the joining of two already living cells creating a chemical reaction allowing them to multiply. I think the whole 'when life begins' question is misleading because the cells (egg & sperm) are already alive. The debate is really when does consciousness begin. Isn't self-awareness the more reasonable standard. You know, I think therefore I am!

On another note anyone notice the minister for women, the advocate for women's rights in parliament, voted for the bill?

 

[WLDB]

Isn't self-awareness the more reasonable standard. You know, I think therefore I am!

If that's your standard there are quite a few babies and even adults who won't meet it.

 

[PoliticalNick]

If that's your standard there are quite a few babies and even adults who won't meet it.

Are you talking about the whole population or just CC members? 8O:lol:

 

[WLDB]

Are you talking about the whole population or just CC members? 8O:lol:

Ha. Perhaps both.

 

[L Gilbert]

Unreal. Some of you people are funny.
The problem these goofy politicians have is not when a human life begins. They can ask any biologist that and get the answer. The problem is at what point is a kid a citizen.