Wealth And Poverty And Political Parties

Liberalman

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Wealth And Poverty And Political Parties

Depending on what lot one has in life; one votes on the political party that will help them the most.

Conservatives is for wealthy people and NDP is for people in poverty like in America Republicans represent wealth and Democrats are for poor people.

Unlike America Canada has the third party the Liberals that tries to help both wealthy and poverty people.

People are always changing their political affiliations depending on their gaining of wealth or losing their wealth.

Wealthy people like the Conservatives because of commitment on protecting the holders of the money where the NDP want to level the playing field and make everyone poor.

At this point no one knows who the leader of the Liberals will be so for now it's an NDP/Con battle.

Our next federal election is in October 2015 that is if the Conservatives do not break their promise.

 
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taxslave

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Unlike America Canada has the third party the Liberals that tries to help both wealthy and poverty people.

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Unlike America Canada has the third party the Liberals that tries to STEAL FROM both wealthy and poverty people.
Fixed that for you.
 

Liberalman

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Unlike America Canada has the third party the Liberals that tries to help both wealthy and poverty people.

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Unlike America Canada has the third party the Liberals that tries to STEAL FROM both wealthy and poverty people.
Fixed that for you.

Taxslave so you prefer soldiers in boxes at CFB Trenton than money in envelopes? It was a Conservative that kept questionable money in the home safe.

The Liberals learned their lesson and paid the price by falling from grace. When will the Conservatives stop putting Canadian citizens in harm's way? Do you feel that keeping Canadian citizens in harm's way more as a tax savings?
 

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Liberal or Conservative. Neither would get my vote provincally of federally...................




From day one I agreed with the NDP that those who can afford to pay were getting a 'free ride' on OHIP courtesy of the working class. Why did the Liberals and Conservatives agreed to stop the rate at $900 a year at $200, 000.00 income? The problem is, neither McGuinty of Hudak are going to cancell it so we have to live with it, unless they don't get in.


They came up with a sliding scale for everyone below $72,000.00 thou a year and if it continued as an equal percentage as it should have, we would all be a lot better off re OHIP.



To make it brief here is how it should work........$100,000.00 a yr = $1150.00 a year

$150,000.00 a yr = $1750.00 a year

$200,000.00 a yr = $2300.00 a year

$250,000.00 a yr = $2900.00 a year

$300,000.00 a yr = $3450.00 a year

$350,000.00 a yr = $4050.00 a year

$400,000.00 a yr = $4600.00 a year

$500,000.00 a yr = $5700.00 a year

$1,000,000.00 a yr = $11,500.00 a year

When we get over a $1,000,000.00 a year in income they should be paying according to the scale.


The Actual Scale below



This table provides examples of how much individuals can expect to pay in OHIP : Individual Taxable Income Premium for Tax Year Up to $20,000 $0.00$21,000$60.00$22,000$120.00$23,000$180.00$24,000$240.00From $25,000 to $36,000 $300.00$36,500$330.00$37,000$360.00$37,500$390.00$38,000$420.00From $38,500 to $48,000 $450.00$48,100$475.00$48,200$500.00$48,300$525.00$48,400$550.00$48,500$575.00From $48,600 to $72,000 $600.00$72,100$625.00$72,200$650.00$72,300$675.00$72,400$700.00$72,500$725.00From $72,600 to $200,000 $750.00$200,100$775.00$200,200$800.00$200,300$825.00$200,400$850.00$200,500$875.00$200,600 and over$900.00

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CFYQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rev.gov.on.ca%2Fen%2Ftax%2Fhealthpremium%2Frates.html&ei=RRx3TvXGIoqQsQK_oOyBBQ&usg=AFQjCNEaPxZrjnRuUt4yZreOPTUZ4tAEvw&sig2=dyfLLXnHBbweZgkv21IK9g




 

WLDB

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Generally true but its not an absolute. I know students with massive debts who identify as conservative and fairly well off people who vote Liberal or NDP.
 

taxslave

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Taxslave so you prefer soldiers in boxes at CFB Trenton than money in envelopes? It was a Conservative that kept questionable money in the home safe.

The Liberals learned their lesson and paid the price by falling from grace. When will the Conservatives stop putting Canadian citizens in harm's way? Do you feel that keeping Canadian citizens in harm's way more as a tax savings?

Which party got us into a war we can not win? Which party gutted our military so they couldn't get uniforms to match the weather conditions where they were sent? Which party bought subs that don't work?
Just askin.
 

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The NDP look for ways to redistribute the existing wealth of the country or the province. Whereas the Conservatives and the Liberals look for ways to grow the amount of wealth followed by redistribution. The NDP methodology does not create any incentive to work hard and look for opportunities. That is why socialism, NDP style or any style, always fails. On a side note, unions pull the strings in the NDP whereas the other two major federal parties are generally controlled by their members and those individuals the members elect to govern the party.

The federal Liberal party has a great opportunity to rebuild itself with Canada's 21 Century in mind. That would provide Canada two realistic choices for the governing party.
 

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International report condemns Harper government’s attacks on workers, trade unions


A new report by the International Trade Union Confederation (ITUC) condemns the Harper Conservatives for repeated violations of union and worker rights.

The annual report, titled Countries at Risk: 2013 Report on Violations of Trade Union Rights, was released in Geneva earlier this week. It suggests that labour conditions have deteriorated under Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s Conservative government.

Most importantly, the reports spotlights the Conservatives’s dictatorship-style repressive responses to legitimate labour actions, including back-to-work legislation.
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Report condemns Harper government’s attacks on workers, trade unions
 

tay

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"Mission Accomplished" Mr. Harper



The greatest misconception the Canadian people have of Stephen Harper, the same misconception that delivered him a majority government, is that he's a competent manager of the Canadian economy.

Says who?



Unlike our prime minister, the numbers don't lie and they're bleak, miserable in fact. Despite squandering the public purse on expensive television advertising campaigns about non-existing employment programmes, blue and white collar Canadians have been taking a pounding on Harper's watch.

The great Canadian dream of a sprawling middle class, awash in home ownership and healthy incomes, has been hit with a jolt of reality — in the form of StatsCan’s National Household Survey.

The newly released numbers from the 2011 census reveal a wide, demographic chasm between the nation’s poor — those whose annual income falls well below the $27,000 median figure for an individual— and the richest in Canada.

Home ownership, at the centre of those decades-old aspirations, has also taken its toll on Canadian households, the NHS shows. While 69 per cent of households in Canada own their home, their mortgage debts are high — sometimes crippling.

More than 25.2 per cent of households are spending more than 30 per cent of their income on shelter, surpassing the standard measure for having an affordable home. That’s up slightly from 24.9 per cent in 2006.

Toronto was the most costly city to maintain a home, at $1,366 a month, while Trois-Rivières, Que., was the cheapest at $697.

"The middle class is under more pressure than ever before. The buying power, the upward mobility, the optimism of the middle class is what has traditionally driven the economy and the democracy,” Liberal MP Ralph Goodale, a former finance minister, said after looking at the NHS numbers Wednesday. “And when the middle class feels under threat, as they clearly do today, that is a very bad omen to the future of the country.”

Canada's blue and white collar workers should be pouring into the streets of Ottawa with pitchforks and torches.

How is this happening in our glorious Petro-State?

How is the middle class getting hollowed out, gutted, on Stephen Harper's watch?


It's nice to hear a prominent Liberal empathizing with the middle class but that and a buck fifty will get you a coffee at Tim Horton's.

What do they intend to do about it?

They had better start talking about this and stop neglecting the Canadian workers. Because, so far, all they've done is prattle on with their thumbs up their arses.


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Household stats give jolt to great Canadian dream | Toronto Star
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Conservatives is for wealthy people and NDP is for people in poverty like in America Republicans represent wealth and Democrats are for poor people.

That explains why a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress spent $9 trillion bailing out banks and major corporations, and $6.9 billion helping people at risk of home foreclosure.

For those of you who aren't good with long strings of zeroes, that's about two-thirds of one tenth of one percent on people losing their homes, and 99.93% on big banks and Fortune 500 corporations.

Good thing for "the poor" Democrats are on their side!