Tory MP recommended giving guns to Gr. 10 girls

[mentalfloss]

Ottawa mom says MP recommended giving girls guns

Saskatchewan Tory MP Garry Breitkreuz found himself embroiled in controversy Thursday after an Ottawa mother complained he told a Grade 10 class that everyone in Canada should be armed, especially girls - an allegation Breitkreuz vehemently denies.

Dianna Sakisheway wrote a letter to Public Safety Minister Vic Toews this week. Her complaint stems from a speech Breitkreuz - known as the father of the legislation to repeal the long-gun registry - gave during a career day at Canter-bury High School on March 7.

"I am outraged at the irresponsible conduct of the federal government in promoting gun violence to schoolchildren," she wrote.

"Mr. Breitkreuz spent most of his allotted time discussing firearms and cited a Texas study that showed women who carry guns are less likely to get raped, including a specific number of women who avoided rape as they were armed," Sakisheway wrote in another letter obtained by Post-media News. "Stop assaulting the sensibilities of our children."

Newfoundland and Labrador Liberal MP Judy Foote raised the issue in question period Thursday.

"Does the minister of public safety agree with his colleagues' extreme position that children should be carrying loaded guns into the schoolyard?" she asked.

Breitkreuz denied having made any such statements, and asked Foote to withdraw her statement and apologize to him.

"This is completely unfounded," he said. "Its absurd and totally without foundations."

Ottawa mom says MP recommended giving girls guns

The article doesn't mention that she later brought forward documents in the house during Point of Order which legitimized the claim.
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[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Sounds like somebody took his comments out of context. Obviously is a woman is armed, she will be less likely to be raped. Doesn't mean that Grade 10 girls should be armed. Somebody made some jumps that were unwarrented.

 

[Locutus]

Non-story is a non-story.

 

[WLDB]

She definitely took the quote out of context. Though that wouldn't be hard to do given the audience.

 

[Colpy]

Breitkreuz has been immersed in the murky waters of firearms policy and debate in this country for more than a decade.

He believes vetted citizens should be allowed to carry arms. So do I.

This woman is bloody hysterical, just read what she says!

God forbid the little darlings be exposed to an idea not vetted by Mom, Dr. Spock, and the entire NDP caucus! Especially if backed up by the FACTS!! THE HORROR!!!!

Take my word for it: Breitkreuz did NOT say grade 10 girls should be packing heat on their way to school.

 

[Spade]

Until the last post, I was willing to give Breitkreuz the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Colpy]

"Garry Breitkreuz ... promoted gun violence," she claimed. "Mr. Breitkreuz made charged statements to the youth that were emotionally provoking and intellectually confusing."

From the CBC.ca article..........the woman is whacked.

BTW, Mentalfloss, Foote tried to table the letter written by Sakisheway.....that is hardly a document
"which legitimized the claim".

 

[mentalfloss]

Tory MP denies touting gun violence in school speech

Breitkreuz later denied having said what Sakisheway's daughter said he did. "It's absurd and totally without foundation," he said, asking Foote to apologize and withdraw her statement." Not surprisingly, Foote didn't apologize, offering instead to table Sakisheway's letter.Attempts to find out exactly what Breitkreuz said were to no avail. The MP did not return repeated calls, nor could the Citizen reach Canterbury's principal or vice-principal.

Sakisheway, however, reiterated the version of events that she had set out in her letter to Toews, paraphrasing what her daughter recalled of Breitkreuz's speech. She asked that her daughter's name not be made public out of concern that she'd be subjected to unwanted attention.

Sakisheway said her daughter told her Breitkreuz defended the Conservatives' decision to scrap the long-gun registry. However, he also told the class that it should be easier for Canadians to own firearms and that everyone in Canada should be able to carry firearms since this would create a safer society.

Here, according to Sakisheway, are a few snippets of what, according to her daughter, Breitkreuz told the class: "He said he wanted to get rid of the registry because he thinks everyone should have the right to own a gun. If everyone here in Canada carried a gun, it would be safer for people. (The government) should make it easier to access guns so people can protect themselves.'"

Breitkreuz also supposedly illustrated his arguments with "what if" stories. For instance, he presented the students with a scenario in which a group of eight people confronts a robber with a gun. He suggested it would be better if one of the eight possessed a gun and shot the robber before he had a chance to harm anyone.

The MP also told the students about a study in a community in the United States where there was a high incidence of rape. In an effort to deal with the situation, local authorities offered guns and training to local women. The program was widely publicized - at least 200 women had been trained and armed - and incidents of rape then dropped sharply.

Sakisheway said she had no objection to Breitkreuz defending the government's decision on the long-gun registry, even though she disagreed with it. What most bothered her were the "what if" scenarios that, in her view, promoted vigilantism. ÎÎ"It's one thing (for Breitkreuz) to say, 'I have supported the abolition of the gun registry.' If he'd left it at that, fine. But he went much further with his 'what if' stories. He was talking about vigilantism."

Breitkreuz should have known better than to describe violent and frightening scenarios - such as robberies and rapes - to an audience of impressionable children, Sakisheway said. "The sad and mean thing he did to these kids is that he planted a really, really negative seed in their minds at an emotional level."

Tory MP denies touting gun violence in school speech
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[gerryh]

No where in there is any mention of giving guns to "girls" as the OP and the Liberal member claim.

As for the last comment, we're talking about a grade 10 class, NOT an elementary school class.

 

[Colpy]

Tory MP denies touting gun violence in school speech

Breitkreuz later denied having said what Sakisheway's daughter said he did. "It's absurd and totally without foundation," he said, asking Foote to apologize and withdraw her statement." Not surprisingly, Foote didn't apologize, offering instead to table Sakisheway's letter.Attempts to find out exactly what Breitkreuz said were to no avail. The MP did not return repeated calls, nor could the Citizen reach Canterbury's principal or vice-principal.​

Sakisheway, however, reiterated the version of events that she had set out in her letter to Toews, paraphrasing what her daughter recalled of Breitkreuz's speech. She asked that her daughter's name not be made public out of concern that she'd be subjected to unwanted attention. ​

Sakisheway said her daughter told her Breitkreuz defended the Conservatives' decision to scrap the long-gun registry. However, he also told the class that it should be easier for Canadians to own firearms and that everyone in Canada should be able to carry firearms since this would create a safer society.​

Here, according to Sakisheway, are a few snippets of what, according to her daughter, Breitkreuz told the class: "He said he wanted to get rid of the registry because he thinks everyone should have the right to own a gun. If everyone here in Canada carried a gun, it would be safer for people. (The government) should make it easier to access guns so people can protect themselves.'"​

Breitkreuz also supposedly illustrated his arguments with "what if" stories. For instance, he presented the students with a scenario in which a group of eight people confronts a robber with a gun. He suggested it would be better if one of the eight possessed a gun and shot the robber before he had a chance to harm anyone.​

The MP also told the students about a study in a community in the United States where there was a high incidence of rape. In an effort to deal with the situation, local authorities offered guns and training to local women. The program was widely publicized - at least 200 women had been trained and armed - and incidents of rape then dropped sharply.​

Sakisheway said she had no objection to Breitkreuz defending the government's decision on the long-gun registry, even though she disagreed with it. What most bothered her were the "what if" scenarios that, in her view, promoted vigilantism. ÎÎ"It's one thing (for Breitkreuz) to say, 'I have supported the abolition of the gun registry.' If he'd left it at that, fine. But he went much further with his 'what if' stories. He was talking about vigilantism."​

Breitkreuz should have known better than to describe violent and frightening scenarios - such as robberies and rapes - to an audience of impressionable children, Sakisheway said. "The sad and mean thing he did to these kids is that he planted a really, really negative seed in their minds at an emotional level."​

Tory MP denies touting gun violence in school speech​

Everything I read about this woman reinforces my perception of her as a complete idiot.

The right to keep arms is ancient, and exists not only in the US constitution, but the British one as well. It could have been a history class....

These kids are at least 14 or 15 years old.....they never heard of robbery or rape?

And this gem:

"What most bothered her were the "what if" scenarios that, in her view, promoted vigilantism."

Bulletin: self-defense is NOT vigilantism.

The woman is at best an idiot, at worst a liar with a political agenda.

 

[#juan]

Here is an interesting gun:

How To Make A Penny Gun - YouTube

 

[damngrumpy]

I will wait to pass judgement on this one, but we see the Tory members retract a lot of things.
Remember the guy who fell asleep during a gathering and stated the participants were just a
bunch of NDP hacks only to find out they were Conservatives.
Jaffers is another case of things gone wrong and there is something here we just don't know
what it is yet.
I for one do not want a society armed to the teeth on city streets there is no need for it.
This is not the excited States of America it is Canada, different rules entirely.
Oh and I forgot the robo call issue, deny deny deny, that quote is also attributed to a Tory a
Saskatchewan Provincial Tory remember Thatcher? He didn't do anything either, oh except
kill his wife and did twenty five years.

 

[lone wolf]

The most rabid cheaters and fibbers get elected. The rest just whine about it on internet forums

 

[CDNBear]

Dianna Sakisheway sounds bitter and divisive.