US taking World economy to brink proves Canadian government system better

Fingertrouble

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With all the ridiculous, childish behavior being displayed in the US Congress and Senate while they try to resolve an issue that MUST be resolved, it has given me much more faith in the type of political system that Canada has. I honestly believe that all this political feather rustling is shameful in the States. Here they are, the worlds largest economy on the brink of not being able to pay its debts and the politicians are playing unforgiveable dangerous games that could have a huge negative effect on many of the economies of the world.

At least in Canada something would be done.....either a majority a party could decide a course of action to take, take it and be held responsible for their decision or with a minority, a ruling party could be defeated and sent to an election!

In the US you get multi-millionaire politicians playing games to keep their nice jobs in DC, their pensions and all the other perks, while arguing that there should be cuts on social spending BUT NO taxes for the weathy!!??!!

I am sorry, but in Canada I am proud to say that I am a Conservative, but I would NEVER vote for the Republicans if I were a US citizen. The democrats to me (while there are some serious left wing loonies!) at least seem to me trying to make some concessions to appese the Republicans(and therefore prevent the US from defaulting).

The problem seems to be that the majority of Republicans have signed on to the Grover Norquist "No New Taxes" Pledge. Now rather than be called out as liars by Grover, these Republican politicians would rather send the US into default and cause tumultuous times for the world economies rather than vote for a plan that reduces public spending and raises some extra capital via closing tax loopholes and taxing the wealthy and save the US credit rating! Are they mad??? Sounds like there need to be a lot of recalls on these Congressmen/women and Senators who are holding the US economy to ransom.
 

Bar Sinister

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It has been frequently pointed out in these forums and elsewhere that the US system of government is broken. In fact Senator John McCain has made that comment repeatedly. What the Senator did not point out is that he is one of the reasons that it is broken. The problem is that the US now has a system that is so completely controlled by special interest groups (primarily wealthy corporations) that is has become unworkable. Only in times of severe crisis are enough members capable of setting aside their differences to get anything done. That is a very poor scenario for solving any of the many problems facing US society. As a result, while Congress dithers and pretends to govern nothing really happens and countries that are better at getting things done such as China forge ahead.

Sadly, the US founding fathers put into place a system that is almost impossible to reform and it will take major reforms to get the US system working properly. Don't look for anything significant to happen soon. The US will continue to lurch from crisis to crisis while the promised American dream slips farther and farther away from most Americans.
 

wulfie68

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When you look at the partisanship on both sides of the border, I fail to see many differences: its not so much the system of governance as the distance between the parties. Can we honestly say, that if the economic positions were reversed, things would be much different? Sure, we may have a little more stability in a majority, but we can still make huge messes that take decades to reverse, as shown by the Trudeau years... and the constant instability of the last decade of minorities just accentuated the partisanship up here.

I'm not saying that things aren't in bad shape south of the border, but I think too many north of it like to get a touch sanctimonious about things on their side of it.
 

petros

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Big government isn't the problem - it's transparency and accountability. The size of government does in fact, increase the level of difficulty in achieving both, but that is a symptom not the problem.
 

petros

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We're Socialist whether American or Canadian just like the rest of the planet is turning Socialist.

We have one week until US Gov wil start to default on loans and lose AAA credit rating. Every money speculator is going to ditch the US dollar in favour of the CDN dollar. I'll bet you 95 cents (one US dollar) it comes to reality.
 

darkbeaver

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The Canadian dollar is backed by paper fiat currencies primarily the US dollar. When the US dollar tanks so does the Canadian dollar.
This age of paper money will end in a jesus big war, enlist today eat tomorrow.
 

petros

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The Canadian dollar is backed by paper fiat currencies primarily the US dollar. When the US dollar tanks so does the Canadian dollar.
Nope. Compare the the CDN dollar to the RMB and then the US dollar as see who has the shopping power and confidence of America's biggest creditor.

Aug 3rd you'll see the CDN dollar skyrocket in comparison to the US against the RMB.
 

TenPenny

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We're Socialist whether American or Canadian just like the rest of the planet is turning Socialist.

We have one week until US Gov wil start to default on loans and lose AAA credit rating. Every money speculator is going to ditch the US dollar in favour of the CDN dollar. I'll bet you 95 cents (one US dollar) it comes to reality.

Heading that way, for sure

USD/CAD Jul 26 at 18:05 GMT

0.9429/31 (-0.4276%)

H 0.9477 L 0.9404

S3S2S1R1R2R30.93590.93820.94060.94980.95220.9545[?]Trend Index[?]OB/OS IndexStrongly BearishExtremely Oversold
 

petros

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Heading that way, for sure

USD/CAD Jul 26 at 18:05 GMT

0.9429/31 (-0.4276%)

H 0.9477 L 0.9404

S3S2S1R1R2R30.93590.93820.94060.94980.95220.9545[?]Trend Index[?]OB/OS IndexStrongly BearishExtremely Oversold
It's only just begun....
Compare CDN and US to the RMB. That is the real eye opener.

Any idea what they're serving in the Chow Hall tomorrow?
Those god aweful MREs in the refugee camps.

Why do Americans live in their cars at Wal-Mart when they come to Canada for work? Zellers has a far better breakfast.
 

EagleSmack

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Those god aweful MREs in the refugee camps.

MREs at the Chow Hall? Will they let us use our heat tabs in there?

Why do Americans live in their cars at Wal-Mart when they come to Canada for work? Zellers has a far better breakfast.

Next time I drive by a Wal-Mart I'll give them directions to the nearest Zellers in Canada.

In the meantime... care to join me at the "brink" for a beer?
 

petros

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MREs at the Chow Hall? Will they let us use our heat tabs in there?



Next time I drive by a Wal-Mart I'll give them directions to the nearest Zellers in Canada.

In the meantime... care to join me at the "brink" for a beer?
Yeah we use the same MREs just don't be goofing around and hot pocketing your new comrades.

Ever enjoyed an ice cold Bohemian?



The only beer I'll drink and it'll it's never more than two and only once or twice a year but for you, I'll make an exception.

If you want you can goof around with a waitress' head and say "blow me" really fast and when they say "pardon?" You can say Boh me.
 

Fingertrouble

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Then why do we Harper & those leaning to right helllbent on leading Canada to a US style of government?
Since when is Harper and the Conservatives leading Canada to a US style of Government? There is no evidence of that statement and it is just another scare tactic those who don't like the Conservatives would use. Try to stick to truths, you might have more success. It is true that the Conservatives would like to see an elected Senate, but that is a little more democratic having the Canadian people elect our Senators and say how long they can serve.

The conservatives are probably more supportive our our constitutional monarch and I haven't seen anything that suggests that that the Conservatives want to go away from a representative democracy.