Canada To Recognize Libya’s Rebel Government

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Canada To Recognize Libya’s Rebel Government

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1008395--canada-to-recognize-libya-s-rebel-government


I never thought I would live to see the day that Canada would recognize a rebel government over the existing one.


Rebels who started an uprising to get rid of a government by using terrorist means of getting what they want.


Our Conservative majority government did this and this is only the beginning of their reign.

Well since they are not allowed to VOTE for their government what do you expect them to do? Not much different than what the US did to get out from under British rule.
Lets just hope that their new government is better than the last one.
 

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I think it's awesome we sided with a a tribe AND alQaeda!

Rather than spout rumour why dont you provide evidence that the Rebels are aligned (or are) Al Qaeda........

This is indeed a very mirky situation that the West has become embroiled in. it also smacks of doing something because Libya is yet another oil producing country. Having said that I for one believe that initially the right action was taken to protect the civilians. From here Nato has to be very cautious with how it procedes with this operation.

I only wish that the world would have taken similar action in Rwanda in the 90's and put thousands of Nato troops on the ground to protect those civilians that perished. Shame on the world for doing nothing.
 
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By world, of course, you mean the West.


Yes, I guess you are right, I should have been more accurate when making my point. Having said that after more thought, it wasnt just the West, I cant think of any other country who went into Rwanda at the height of the crisis to stop the genocide. It shouldnt always have to be the West to step up to the plate, althought it makes good sense that they should have.
 

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Canada To Recognize Libya’s Rebel Government

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1008395--canada-to-recognize-libya-s-rebel-government


I never thought I would live to see the day that Canada would recognize a rebel government over the existing one.


Rebels who started an uprising to get rid of a government by using terrorist means of getting what they want.


Our Conservative majority government did this and this is only the beginning of their reign.

I guess by default, rebels can be classified as terrorist, but I think that is an oversimplification. Some people claim that there is no difference between good rebels and bad rebels. I believe that there is a difference, not only in their words, but in their actions, and it should be reasonably easy to separate the two groups simply by looking at how compliant they are to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and Freedoms.
 

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Rather than spout rumour why dont you provide evidence that the Rebels are aligned (or are) Al Qaeda........
You need a link? If you didn't know that, why are you posting in a thread you know nothing about?.

Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links

Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi, the Libyan rebel leader, has said jihadists who fought against allied troops in Iraq are on the front lines of the battle against Muammar Gaddafi's regime.

In an interview with the Italian newspaper Il Sole 24 Ore, Mr al-Hasidi admitted that he had recruited "around 25" men from the Derna area in eastern Libya to fight against coalition troops in Iraq. Some of them, he said, are "today are on the front lines in Adjabiya".

Mr al-Hasidi insisted his fighters "are patriots and good Muslims, not terrorists," but added that the "members of al-Qaeda are also good Muslims and are fighting against the invader".


His revelations came even as Idriss Deby Itno, Chad's president, said al-Qaeda had managed to pillage military arsenals in the Libyan rebel zone and acquired arms, "including surface-to-air missiles, which were then smuggled into their sanctuaries".


Mr al-Hasidi admitted he had earlier fought against "the foreign invasion" in Afghanistan, before being "captured in 2002 in Peshwar, in Pakistan". He was later handed over to the US, and then held in Libya before being released in 2008.


US and British government sources said Mr al-Hasidi was a member of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, or LIFG, which killed dozens of Libyan troops in guerrilla attacks around Derna and Benghazi in 1995 and 1996

Am I the last guy on the planet to actually read the news?

Libya: the West and al-Qaeda on the same side

Statements of support for Libya's revolution by al-Qaeda and leading Islamists have led to fears that military action by the West might be playing into the hands of its ideological enemies.


WikiLeaks cables, independent analysts and reporters have all identified supporters of Islamist causes among the opposition to Col Gaddafi's regime, particularly in the towns of Benghazi and Dernah.

An al-Qaeda leader of Libyan origin, Abu Yahya al-Libi, released a statement backing the insurrection a week ago, while Yusuf Qaradawi, the Qatar-based, Muslim Brotherhood-linked theologian issued a fatwa authorising Col Gaddafi's military entourage to assassinate him.


But they also agree that the leading roles in the revolution are played by a similar cross-section of society as that in Egypt next door – liberals, nationalists, those with personal experience of regime brutality and Islamists who subscribe to democratic principles.

The WikiLeaks cables, initially revealed by The Daily Telegraph and dating from 2008, identified Dernah in particular as a breeding ground for fighters in a number of causes, including Afghanistan and Iraq.


"The unemployed, disfranchised young men of eastern Libya have nothing to lose and are therefore willing to sacrifice themselves for something greater than themselves by engaging in extremism in the name of religion," the cables quoted a Dernah businessman as saying.

Are we going to go genocidal too?

Good thing we sent our oil experts in two weeks before we attacked to ensure the wrong flying refineries and ports don't get blown to bits.
 

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This is the problem with making blanket statements like... WAR ON TERROR.. because eventually you'll become a hypocrite.
 

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MacKay defends Libya extension, says 'unknowns remain'

MacKay told CTV's Canada AM on Tuesday "there are still some unknowns" when it comes to the disparate rebel group, but the decision to back the NTC was the right one.

"Democracy isn't always, shall we say, clearly defined," MacKay told CTV's Canada AM on Wednesday.

"But it is a reaction to the people of Libya who were in the streets, and as we've seen in other countries throughout the region they wanted a change. They were no logger going to accept the repression, the violence that their own government was perpetrating against them."

Canada got involved in Libya under the premise of protecting civilians. The goal has now shifted dramatically, with Canada taking part in air strikes against compounds belonging to Gadhafi and his loyalists. MacKay said that achieving the United Nations' long-term goals for Libya, such as ensuring the safety of the population and allowing humanitarian aid to enter the country, can only occur after Gadhafi is removed.

"We are trying to attempt to stop an atrocity, that is what we are there to do," MacKay said. "We are there to protect human life and to allow this transitional council to do what they have to do to bring about a kind of functioning and stable society so that they can go forward without living under the heel of Gadhafi."

Canada currently has 650 military personnel in the region, many of them aboard the HMCS Charlottetown.

Canada has so far spent about $23 million on the mission, but the cost could climb to an estimated $60 million if Canada remains in Libya until the end of September. The announcement also came hot on the heels of Ottawa's new commitment of $2 million in humanitarian assistance to civilians in Libya.

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May was the only dissenting MP to vote against the extension of the mission for three-and-a-half months.

MacKay defends Libya extension, says 'unknowns remain' - CTV News
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Wow.

The fact that the NDP let this one go so easily (even though they did sign on for the mission) is really disconcerting, but they are clearly pandering for the conservative vote. This mission is fiscally irresponsible and unnecessary.

The fact that they are still pawning this off as some humanitarian concern, when the reality is that this will have more to do with reforming the state and sucking up their oil, is completely disgusting.
 

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Does McKay know it's a tribal war or should someone fill him on that before he spews B U L L S H I T and does a disservice to the people of Canada by supporting alQaeda?
 

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Does McKay know it's a tribal war or should someone fill him on that before he spews B U L L S H I T and does a diserive to the people of Canada by supporting alQaeda?

You shouldn't be thinking about this anyway. Be a good Canadian and go watch the final instead.
 

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The fact that they are still pawning this off as some humanitarian concern,
when the reality is that this will have more to do with reforming the state and
sucking up their oil, is completely disgusting.
The oil is nothing. It's the water.

You shouldn't be thinking about this anyway. Be a good Canadian and go watch the final instead.
Final what? Solution?
 

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The oil is nothing. It's the water.

On the balance sheet, the oil will still bring in some profit even if it is only 1.5%.

They should have cut all ties and let the rebels deal with this themselves.

Final what? Solution?

The Canucks/Bruins final. If you watch the video of the interview with MacKay, his final statement was complete horse**** nationalism. The look on the interviewer's face.. ugh..
 

petros

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On the balance sheet, the oil will still bring in some profit even if it is only 1.5%.

They should have cut all ties and let the rebels deal with this themselves.

The Canucks/Bruins final. If you watch the video of the interview with MacKay, his final statement was complete horse**** nationalism. The look on the interviewer's face.. ugh..
Are you aware of the irrigation system that Gaddafi was building using that oil money?

He was about to turn the Sahara green again which would put Spain, France and Israel out of the fruit and veg game.

Controlling food is 10X more important than controlling oil or even having nukes. Just ask Stalin.

Great Manmade River - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Beside Gaddaffi isa Socialist, he puts his tribe first and that pissed off the other tribe.

No to mention Libya takes no loans from World Bank or IMF to build this.