A new political sunrise.

Trex

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Knowing as I do the leftward slant to several of the most popular posters on this site I thought I would chuck out a small dose of political reality.

Canada once was known as a Liberal country at heart and the Liberal Party of Canada was known as "the natural ruling party".
No more.
The Liberal Party of Canada is now a shattered has been.

Change is a coming.

PM Harper is a strategist and an incrementalist by nature.
It took multiple Liberal majorities to slowly and thoroughly convert Canada's political, judicial, legal, military and civil services to a leftward orientation.
It will in turn take a long time and a lot of hard work to reverse that course.

Here is how it starts:

The blatantly Liberal Govenor General's Clarkson and Michaelle Jean have been replaced by a Conservative steady-eddy realist David Johnston.

The Liberal Speaker of the House Peter Milliken has been replaced by Conservative Andrew Scheer.
Many of us can remember the good old Chretien days when RCMP investigation after RCMP investigation plagued the majority Liberals.
But the good old Liberal Speaker deflected and killed all such talk in the house.
And then there was the parting Liberal hand-grenades lobbed by Milliken on his way out the door.
Well those days are over and now it will be a Conservative Speaker lobbing any future grenades.

The Auditor General in my view was hardworking and fairly unbiased.
She is now gone and it will be a Conservative appointment.
One can only assume the new Auditor General will have a slightly more practical and conservative background.

The Supreme Court of Canada.
The Supreme Court has since the time of Trudeau viewed itself as both a creator and a helmsman of Canadian ethics and institutions.
Liberal ethics, policies and institutions it goes without saying.
Three Justices are now stepping down, they will be replace by Conservative appointments.
In the next 4 years a few more will be stepping down and they too will be replaced by Conservative appointments.
I presume we can now look forward to the Supreme Court of Canada starting to champion Conservative policies ,ethics and institutions.

The Senate.
PM Harper and the Conservate Party of Canada would prefer to institute a triple E senate.
The provincial Liberals in Ontario oppose this as does Quebec and the Maritimes.
So PM Harper will just continue to stack it with Conservatives.
Every Conservative bill will fly through the house, all other bills for the foreseeable future will die on the floor.

Canadian riding adjustments.
The Conservative Party of Canada under PM Harper will be adjusted on a provincial basis to fairly represent Canadian population growth.
Thus BC, Alberta and Ontario will get a bunch of new seats.
The Maritimes and Quebec both oppose this change (of course).
This will geographically tend to slightly benefit the federal Conservatives in future elections.

Cutting the federal per-vote subsidy.
This will primarily benefit the federal Conservatives in future elections as the Conservatives have an extremely effective grass-roots funding network in place.
It probably will also help the NDP in future elections as the NDP has always had a rock solid grass-roots funding network in place.
It will absolutely cripple any future Quebec based sepratist parties like the BQ.
It will also badly further wound the ailing Liberal Party of Canada.

The above is factual reality.

We can only speculate on what further changes the Harper administration will bring down the pipe.

If I was a die-hard left wing believer I would probably ask my family to place me on suicide watch.

Trex
 

DurkaDurka

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Some things will change, drastic changes though? I doubt. Harper will still have to stay near the middle of the political divide if he hopes to carry this majority past one term.
 

mentalfloss

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Why can't we just enjoy a nice mix and give up the left-right wing bull****?
 

cranky

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I've vote left wing before, but I've been voting right for about 10 years now.

I estimate that in about 10 years, I will vote left again.

but for now, I am happy and optimistic about the Conservative party, they are representing me better than the Liberals did 10 years ago.
 

mentalfloss

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I've vote left wing before, but I've been voting right for about 10 years now.

I estimate that in about 10 years, I will vote left again.

but for now, I am happy and optimistic about the Conservative party, they are representing me better than the Liberals did 10 years ago.

I vote for the party that makes the most sense to me at the time I vote. Left, right, up or down.
 

Cliffy

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A military for the purpose of self defense is kinda leftish. But a military for aggression in foreign lands is right wing. Since the military is run and financed by government, it is a socialist as the postal service or any civil service.
 

taxslave

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A military for the purpose of self defense is kinda leftish. But a military for aggression in foreign lands is right wing. Since the military is run and financed by government, it is a socialist as the postal service or any civil service.

A military of any kind would be rightish. lefties would just go hide their heads in the sand. Remember in the late sixties with the cold war the favorite lefty saying was " Better red than dead"? No one even marginally center would go along with that.
 

Cliffy

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A military of any kind would be rightish. lefties would just go hide their heads in the sand. Remember in the late sixties with the cold war the favorite lefty saying was " Better red than dead"? No one even marginally center would go along with that.
Only fringe group commies said that. If I recall, Stalin and Lenin were both right wing dictators with no semblance of socialism in their veins. They were both more fascist than socialist. Canadian commies were just nuts.
 

mentalfloss

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Let me know when the military becomes privatized. Until then it's more socialistic in principle.

Sorry to shatter your dreams.
 

Bar Sinister

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Better check your math. Just in case you did not notice 60% of Canadians voted left of centre; just as they have done for the last four decades. Also review the numerous left wing policies that were part of the Conservative platform. Certainly, 40% of Canadians gave the Conservatives their support, but it is a Conservative Party that no one from the 1980s would recognize. Any attempt by the new government to turn back the clock is likely to be met with considerable hostility; even from voters who supported the party.
 

cranky

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Better check your math. Just in case you did not notice 60% of Canadians voted left of centre; just as they have done for the last four decades. Also review the numerous left wing policies that were part of the Conservative platform. Certainly, 40% of Canadians gave the Conservatives their support, but it is a Conservative Party that no one from the 1980s would recognize. Any attempt by the new government to turn back the clock is likely to be met with considerable hostility; even from voters who supported the party.

Meh. I would say that half of the lefties are actually happy with the Conservatives, and would have voted for them if it wasnt for Iggy's prowess on the campaign trail :)
 

In Between Man

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A military for the purpose of self defense is kinda leftish. But a military for aggression in foreign lands is right wing. Since the military is run and financed by government, it is a socialist as the postal service or any civil service.

You're really trying to stretch the definition of socialism with that one.

Only fringe group commies said that. If I recall, Stalin and Lenin were both right wing dictators with no semblance of socialism in their veins. They were both more fascist than socialist. Canadian commies were just nuts.

Stalin and Lenin weren't right wing! They were communists through and through. Hello!!!