Are Men Really That Much More Stupid Than Women? High-School Dropout Rates Say "YES"

[Spade]

Are Men Really That Much More Stupid Than Women? High-School Dropout Rates Say "YES"

In 2004/5, 63.7% of high-school dropouts were male!
Provincial drop-out rates
And, in a recent Globe and Mail (male) article, 40% of male high-school students in Quebec drop out! And, the trend is not much different in the rest of Canada.
The lost boys of Quebec - The Globe and Mail

So, are male students too stupid to complete high school in greater numbers? Or, are our schools failing once again?

 

[gerryh]

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golly gee whiz.... talk about a highly deceptive thread title. I would even say it borders on trolling. From the first link.

Of the 212,000 drop-outs in Canada in 2004-2005, 135,000 were men (Figure 3). The rates of dropping out among young men was 12.2% in 2004-2005, compared with 7.2% for young women. For both men and women, the drop-out rate has fallen from 1990-1991, when they were 19.2% and 14.0%, respectively.

well, would ya look at that. The drop out rate is falling. Son of a gun eh.

 

[TenPenny]

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And as anyone who knows anything about the subject can tell you, dropping out of high school has no correlation with intelligence.

 

[Walter]

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The feminization of education encourages males to say Fuk it.

 

[gerryh]

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The feminization of education encourages males to say Fuk it.

:roll::roll::jerk:

 

[Goober]

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:roll::roll::jerk:

Gerry H - The studies over the past number of years have criticized the focus on females and that this is a major contributing factor to the male drop out rate.

 

[gerryh]

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Gerry H - The studies over the past number of years have criticized the focus on females and that this is a major contributing factor to the male drop out rate.

BS, that would be an excuse, and a pretty p*ss poor one at that. There are LOTS of opportunities for males in the education system.

 

[Goober]

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BS, that would be an excuse, and a pretty p*ss poor one at that. There are LOTS of opportunities for males in the education system.

Instead of running an earlier opinion down with the little laughing clowns - perhaps you should read up on it. Just a suggestion

 

[Cliffy]

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BS, that would be an excuse, and a pretty p*ss poor one at that. There are LOTS of opportunities for males in the education system.

But what are the opportunities in the work force? Women tend to get preference as do minorities. Perhaps some guys would rather get a job and do Adult Ed when they get older. If your parents can't afford to put you through college or university, why be in a hurry to finish high school? Chances are, even if you had a degree, you end up flipping burgers anyway.

 

[gerryh]

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Instead of running an earlier opinion down with the little laughing clowns - perhaps you should read up on it. Just a suggestion

I really don't care what some "study" says. I call BS on it if it states that the education system has been "feminized" and that's the reason for the male drop outs. It's an "excuse". A "copout".

 

[Goober]

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I really don't care what some "study" says. I call BS on it if it states that the education system has been "feminized" and that's the reason for the male drop outs. It's an "excuse". A "copout".

Typical Gerry - You are rignt and everyone else is wrong.

 

[gerryh]

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But what are the opportunities in the work force? Women tend to get preference as do minorities. Perhaps some guys would rather get a job and do Adult Ed when they get older. If your parents can't afford to put you through college or university, why be in a hurry to finish high school? Chances are, even if you had a degree, you end up flipping burgers anyway.

Oh...MY....Gawd....... You do realize that the trades are SCREAMING for people. University is NOT the only avenue to a descent wage. unless of course you don't find 80 to 120k per year a descent wage.

Typical Gerry - You are rignt and everyone else is wrong.

No, I'm not willing to accept excuses for why someone dropped when those excuses blame someone else for a persons actions.

 

[Cliffy]

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Oh...MY....Gawd....... You do realize that the trades are SCREAMING for people. University is NOT the only avenue to a descent wage. unless of course you don't find 80 to 120k per year a descent wage.

Yes, I know the trades are screaming. My niece is doing her carpentry apprenticeship. I see a lot of guys who would rather do drugs and then sell them to feed their habit, only to discover that they can make a better living partying than working. There are a lot of reasons for the drop out rate, some have to do with hopelessness over the economic situation and chances of survival from all this terrorism and war that are making life to precarious for them to make any long term plans.

 

[gerryh]

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Yes, I know the trades are screaming. My niece is doing her carpentry apprenticeship. I see a lot of guys who would rather do drugs and then sell them to feed their habit, only to discover that they can make a better living partying than working. There are a lot of reasons for the drop out rate, some have to do with hopelessness over the economic situation and chances of survival from all this terrorism and war that are making life to precarious for them to make any long term plans.

and none of those reasons have ANYTHING to do with the supposed "feminization" of the education system.

 

[Cliffy]

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and none of those reasons have ANYTHING to do with the supposed "feminization" of the education system.

That is right. Using the feminization card is only covering one aspect of the problem. I think it has more to do with compartmentalized thinking that is epidemic in this society, something to do with receiving our information in ten second sound bites.

 

[JLM]

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I've never been really convinced that the stuff they teach in schools tests intelligence. Some of the top academics I've met when they get out in real life don't know how to pound sand in a rat hole. :lol:

 

[Spade]

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The top 1000 things on a male high-school student’s mind.
1. Cleavage
2. Short skirts
3. His penis
4. Food
5. Fast cars
6. Video games
7. Sports
8. His abs
9. Part-time jobs
.
.
.
996. The subjunctive
997. The conservation of momentum
999. The fundamental theorem of algebra
1000. Canadian history
How can schools reverse this order?

 

[gerryh]

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That is right. Using the feminization card is only covering one aspect of the problem. I think it has more to do with compartmentalized thinking that is epidemic in this society, something to do with receiving our information in ten second sound bites.

and that would be an excuse.

 

[JLM]

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The top 1000 things on a male high-school student’s mind.
1. Cleavage
2. Short skirts
3. His penis
4. Food
5. Fast cars
6. Video games
7. Sports
8. His abs
9. Part-time jobs
.
.
.
996. The subjunctive
997. The conservation of momentum
999. The fundamental theorem of algebra
1000. Canadian history
How can schools reverse this order?

I'm guessing you were the valedictorian at graduation, Spade. :lol:

 

[Spade]

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I'm guessing you were the valedictorian at graduation, Spade. :lol:

Here is a thoughtful valedictorian's (female) speech!
Valedictorian Speaks Out Against Schooling in Graduation Speech -- Signs of the Times News