What taxes should a carbon tax replace?


petros
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#31
Maybe there are too many uneccessary services?
 
Machjo
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#32
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

That god damn criminal real estate transfer tax. I have no problem with taxing stuff like alcohol and tobacco that is potentially harmful, but what the f**k is the harm in owning a house?

Good point. Wealth should not be taxed beyond luxuries. And a roof over your head, unless it's a mansion, is not a luxury. And even if it's a mansion, if you have the whole extended family living in it, it might still not be a luxury.

Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Stop being so silly. Taxes aren't levied on things just because they're harmful

He's not being silly. Other than a moderate wealth tax, all tax ought to be a sin tax. That way it kills two birds with one stone. It provides revenue and promotes good behaviour.
 
petros
#33
Why are Mansions considered a luxury?
 
Machjo
#34
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

It should be on top of other taxes not replace them.

We need more taxes.

In the short term, maybe, but only to pay off government debt. But certainly not in the long term.

And even then, why not increase sin taxes if we must increase revenue?
 
petros
#35
To flossy debt is good.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Because we pay too little and don't have enough for services.

You can blame caring fiscal conservatives like Cannuck for that.


We may need to increase taxes in the short term, but we need to scrap some services too. No a person should not enjoy a constitutional right to receive a 7-Up in French on an international Air Canada flight while he does not enjoy the same right in American Sign Language. The deaf don't complain about it, so neither should we.
 
petros
#37
We need to finish the projects in and out of Pacific ports.

That will take another 10 years. We are only at the halfway point.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Maybe there are too many uneccessary services?


You've hit the nail on the head!
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

You've hit the nail on the head!

You mean being served a 7-Up in French on an international Air Canada flight shouldn't be a God-given right? TRAITOR!

You mean that we don't need the CBC to provide the same services that the private sector provides just as well? HANG YOU!

Traitor to the cause of our future utopia!
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

To flossy debt is good.

Only if we create it and it is used as investment.

Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

We may need to increase taxes in the short term, but we need to scrap some services too. No a person should not enjoy a constitutional right to receive a 7-Up in French on an international Air Canada flight while he does not enjoy the same right in American Sign Language. The deaf don't complain about it, so neither should we.

Yes I didn't say all services.

Let's start with the important ones like healthcare, day care and education.
 
JLM
#41
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Only if we create it and it is used as investment.



Yes I didn't say all services.

Let's start with the important ones like healthcare, day care and education.


I fully agree with healthcare and education!
 
Machjo
#42
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Only if we create it and it is used as investment.



Yes I didn't say all services.

Let's start with the important ones like healthcare, day care and education.

Ouch. The NDP won't like to read that. They'd be saying let's start with expanding French services in Vancouver and English services in Quebec City, and increse funding to the CBC even though CTV provides almost the exact same service, and let's nationalise more healthcare even though the best systems in the world are two-tiered, etc. etc. etc.

My my my, to focus on bread-and-butter socialism makes you a traitor to the cause.

Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

I fully agree with healthcare and education!

Why health care and education when you can spend it on Heritage Canada and the CBCinstead?
 
mentalfloss
#43
National media is important too.

The news part of CBC is much better than private outlets like Globe and Mail or National Post.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

National media is important too...

Everything the government does is important to you.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

National media is important too.

The news part of CBC is much better than private outlets like Globe and Mail or National Post.

Can you give an example?

Also, do you realise just how different the CBC/SRC coverage is in English and French? I read both and they are just as different in their coverage from one another as they are from other outlets. Why is that? Each media will cover different things and the CBC is no different from the rest in any way.

Also, are you aware that we have media coverage in other languages too that the CBS just does not cover? I read some of it myself.
 
JLM
#46
Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

Ouch. The NDP won't like to read that. They'd be saying let's start with expanding French services in Vancouver and English services in Quebec City, and increse funding to the CBC even though CTV provides almost the exact same service, and let's nationalise more healthcare even though the best systems in the world are two-tiered, etc. etc. etc.

My my my, to focus on bread-and-butter socialism makes you a traitor to the cause.



Why health care and education when you can spend it on Heritage Canada and the CBCinstead?


I don't basically have a problem with C.B.C. (apart from going a little overboard on the G.B.L.T. business) they provide fairly accurate news coverage and a few programs of interest to the average consumer.
 
Machjo
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#47
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

I don't basically have a problem with C.B.C. (apart from going a little overboard on the G.B.L.T. business) they provide fairly accurate news coverage and a few programs of interest to the average consumer.

The best part of GBLT is the Greens, the Lettuce, and the Tomato. The Bacon is very unhealthy.
 
JLM
#48
Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

He's not being silly. Other than a moderate wealth tax, all tax ought to be a sin tax. That way it kills two birds with one stone. It provides revenue and promotes good behaviour.


No use arguing with imbeciles...........................do what I do, put them on ignore!

Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

The best part of GBLT is the Greens, the Lettuce, and the Tomato. The Bacon is very unhealthy.


A little off topic but bacon is very healthy if eaten once a week and cooked to a crisp.

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

National media is important too.

The news part of CBC is much better than private outlets like Globe and Mail or National Post.


Don't know about G & M but N.P. can lean a little toward the histrionics, but it makes interesting reading.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

I don't basically have a problem with C.B.C. (apart from going a little overboard on the G.B.L.T. business) ...

They have to counteract all the hatred by hung up seniors
 
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