Preventing global warming is the cheap option

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Climate dollars and sense – preventing global warming is the cheap option

The IPCC has now released all three of the reports that comprise its 2014 Fifth Assessment of climate science. The first report tackled the physical changes in the global climate, while the second addressed climate impacts and adaptation, and the third looked at climate change mitigation. Ironically, after the second report was published, many media outlets argued that the IPCC was shifting its focus from global warming prevention to adaptation, seemingly unaware that its report on mitigation was scheduled to be published just a few weeks later.

Other media outlets have incorrectly argued that the IPCC reports conclude it's cheaper to adapt than avoid climate change. This error stems from the fact that the second report says about the costs of climate damages,

"the incomplete estimates of global annual economic losses for additional temperature increases of ~2°C are between 0.2 and 2.0% of income ... Losses are more likely than not to be greater, rather than smaller, than this range ... Losses accelerate with greater warming, but few quantitative estimates have been completed for additional warming around 3°C or above."

The third report then said about the costs of avoiding global warming,

"mitigation scenarios that reach atmospheric concentrations of about 450ppm CO2eq by 2100 entail losses in global consumption—not including benefits of reduced climate change as well as cobenefits and adverse side‐effects of mitigation ... [that] correspond to an annualized reduction of consumption growth by 0.04 to 0.14 (median: 0.06) percentage points over the century relative to annualized consumption growth in the baseline that is between 1.6% and 3% per year."

The challenge is that these two numbers aren't directly comparable. One deals with annual global economic losses, while the other is expressed as a slightly slowed global consumption growth. While these numbers can be put in terms of their net impact on economic growth, the next problem is that the first is not a proper estimate of the costs of climate damages. The IPCC was only able to estimate the costs of climate damages for another 2°C warming, but limiting global warming to another 2°C will require substantial mitigation efforts.

Thus this estimate only tells us the costs of global warming in a scenario where we also act to significantly reduce greenhouse gas emissions. As the second report notes, economists can't even accurately estimate the costs of climate damages in a business-as-usual scenario with global warming well above an additional 3°C. So how do we determine the economically optimal path?

Sorting Out the Numbers with Chris Hope
To answer this question, I spoke with Cambridge climate economist Chris Hope, who told me that if the goal is to figure out the economically optimal amount of global warming mitigation, the IPCC reports "don't take us far down this road." To do this comparison properly, the benefits of reduced climate damages and the costs of reduced greenhouse gas emissions need to be compared in terms of "net present value." That's the sort of estimate Integrated Assessment Models like Hope's PAGE were set up to make.

According to Hope's model, the economically optimal peak atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is around 500 ppm, with a peak global surface warming of about 3°C above pre-industrial temperatures (about 2°C warmer than present). In his book The Climate Casino, Yale economist William Nordhaus notes that he has arrived at a similar conclusion in his modeling research.

To limit global warming to that level would require major efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, but as the IPCC report on mitigation noted, that would only slow the global economic growth rate from about 2.3% per year to about 2.24% per year. According to these economic models, this slowed economic growth rate would be more than offset by the savings from avoiding climate damages above 3°C global warming.

Climate dollars and sense – preventing global warming is the cheap option
 

petros

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Interglacial optimums and how water when warmed releases gases which is the source of interglacial ghgs.

There is a lot for you learn like how we are at the mean average for polar and alpine ice.
 

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mentalfloss

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Are you going to reach some culminating point here?

Edit: Petros, not retarded gif man.
 

MHz

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The cheapest way is to promote it as a fact and then implement some (very expensive) solutions that work so well that the opposite happens and there is no way to stop the cooling which (as it turns out) is completely natural and actually makes the inhabitable parts of the earth even more productive overall.
 

mentalfloss

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Yeah. Read up and find out or are you afraid?

Is it possible prognosticate about the future without a complete and full picture of the past?

Nothing in there refutes the science on AGW.

You've simply cherry picked bits and assumed there is a correlation.
 

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Preventing AGW isn't an option. Anymore than asking my cat to make sure to conserve his food while we're gone for the week. We're animals.
 

petros

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According to the RSS satellite data, whose value for March 2014 is just in, the global warming trend in the 17 years 8 months since August 1996 is zero. The 212 months without global warming represents just over half the 423-month satellite data record, which began in January 1979
 

coldstream

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lies, lies, lies.. nothing the AGW lobby sais can be trusted.

The radicalism and preposterous invention of 'evidence'.. selectively chosen or fabricated.. should give all concern as to exactly what their real agenda is. What ever it is, it has nothing to do with science or the 'environment'.. it has to do with money and power.. and it is maniacally anti-human (especially population) in its philosophy.

Their solution in mass impoverishment and enslavement of human populations to a fantasy eco-utoia.. which dove tails perfectly with the tyranny of global 'free' market culture. With whom they are in collusion with 'carbon' credits.
 
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