Happy Father's Day?

Ariadne

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Where is the Happy Father's Day thread. Isn't everyone comparing their presents? I helped my son pick out a gift for his dad: I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell, by Tucker Max ... quite the comedian, law student from NC.

What did everyone else get?

(I hope I put this in the correct category ... wasn't sure where hallmark days fell)
 

Kreskin

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My daughter decided I wanted a car so she bought me a Hot Wheel; a Mustang GT!

We went to the golf driving range and had a lot of fun.
 
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JLM

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Where is the Happy Father's Day thread. Isn't everyone comparing their presents? I helped my son pick out a gift for his dad: I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell, by Tucker Max ... quite the comedian, law student from NC.

What did everyone else get?

(I hope I put this in the correct category ... wasn't sure where hallmark days fell)

The Mrs. took me, one son and two grand daughters for a nice breakfast put on by the Eagles Club to start off a nice day. We prepared a nice steak dinner at home. Can't beat that.
 

Dexter Sinister

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My kids are so far away at the moment that not much was possible beyond a phone call, and we've never done presents on Mother's Day or Father's Day anyway, those are for Christmas and birthdays only, part of our general family stand against the commercialization of everything. We don't do Valentine's Day either. But I did get the calls and the good wishes from my children, one via Skype and one by phone, and that's all I need or expect.

And being of a philosophical turn of mind, I was thinking more broadly about fatherhood today, and was struck by an admittedly purely anecdotal observation. Among all the truly messed up people I've encountered in my life, from my days in high school, my personal and professional life as an adult, and the friends and acquaintances of my children, and my friends' children, I see one common factor. We all know the kind of messed up people I mean, the women with no self-respect who think the way to a man's heart is through his fly, the drunken, violent, under-achieving men... (Funny how often they find each other.) The common factor is an absent, abusive, or disengaged (or all three) father. In simpler terms, just a bad father. I also know lots of people with bad fathers who are okay, having one doesn't guarantee being messed up, but it certainly multiplies the odds and it does appear to work the other way, being messed up means you had a bad father. Possibly a bad mother too, but in most single parent families it's the father who's absent. So to all fathers and potential fathers I would say, stay the course guys, you DO make a difference, your children need you, be there for them.
 
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JLM

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My kids are so far away at the moment that not much was possible beyond a phone call, and we've never done presents on Mother's Day or Father's Day anyway, those are for Christmas and birthdays only, part of our general family stand against the commercialization of everything. We don't do Valentine's Day either. But I did get the calls and the good wishes from my children, one via Skype and one by phone, and that's all I need or expect.

And being of a philosophical turn of mind, I was thinking more broadly about fatherhood today, and was struck by an admittedly purely anecdotal observation. Among all the truly messed up people I've encountered in my life, from my days in high school, my personal and professional life as an adult, and the friends and acquaintances of my children, and my friends' children, I see one common factor. We all know the kind of messed up people I mean, the women with no self-respect who think the way to a man's heart is through his fly, the drunken, violent, under-achieving men... The common factor is an absent, abusive, or disengaged (or all three) father. In simpler terms, just a bad father. I also know lots of people with bad fathers who are okay, having one doesn't guarantee being messed up, but it does appear to work the other way, being messed up means you had a bad father. Possibly a bad mother too, but in most single parent families it's the father who's absent. So to all fathers and potential fathers I would say, stay the course guys, you DO make a difference, your children need you, be there for them.

Your first paragraph is right on...........you should have stopped there. I've known several men who are "straight arrows", hard workers and devoted family men whose kids are messed up. I have heard it said, but am not sure of the validity that messed up men often had over indulging mothers who often came to the kid's defense when it was unwarranted. Truth be known there are probably examples of every combination.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Your first paragraph is right on...........you should have stopped there.
Why should I have stopped there? I just offered an anecdotal observation about what I've noted, other people may have noted different things or drawn different conclusions, but I think my final sentence stands as correct regardless.
 

JLM

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Why should I have stopped there? I just offered an anecdotal observation about what I've noted, other people may have noted different things or drawn different conclusions, but I think my final sentence stands as correct regardless.

OK, I stand corrected. :smile:
 

Nuggler

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All the kids and grandkids came over and we had a BBQ, and the grandkids generally ran around the yard and splashed in the kiddie pool. It was more a kiddie day, and that's fine.

Father (me) did the BBQ thing. My wife and kids did the kitchen, salads, etc.

Sun shone, everyone had a dandy time.

We don't do gifts, but Mother's day and Father's day does serve to bring us together, and that's a good thing.

eh.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Well, okay JLM, if you say so :), but that's kinda the trouble with anecdotal evidence, which is all either of us offered, you can never be sure whether you're really right or not. I'm sure there are examples of messed up people with good fathers and crappy mothers, and messed up people with two good parents, and excellent, well-adjusted people with two crappy parents, and all other possible combinations of good and bad kids and parents. Evolution pretty much guarantees such variation, but I've no idea what the relative incidence of those things is, and it's not what I've encountered. I just wanted to make the point that being a dad is important, and I'm sure you won't disagree with that.
 

petros

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I spent Father's Day at the cemetary with my mom then spent an hour on the phone with my girl who just moved to Halifax 3 weeks ago.
 

JLM

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Well, okay JLM, if you say so :), but that's kinda the trouble with anecdotal evidence, which is all either of us offered, you can never be sure whether you're really right or not. I'm sure there are examples of messed up people with good fathers and crappy mothers, and messed up people with two good parents, and excellent, well-adjusted people with two crappy parents, and all other possible combinations of good and bad kids and parents. Evolution pretty much guarantees such variation, but I've no idea what the relative incidence of those things is, and it's not what I've encountered. I just wanted to make the point that being a dad is important, and I'm sure you won't disagree with that.

In the old days (about 1959) parents were probably the biggest influence in their children's lives but since then we've had an evil, insidious influence creep in - street drugs -that simply undo and negate all the other influences.
 

petros

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In the old days (about 1959) parents were probably the biggest influence in their children's lives but since then we've had an evil, insidious influence creep in - street drugs -that simply undo and negate all the other influences.
115 years ago when all street drugs were legal 1% of the population were full on addicts. 115 years later of prohibition 1% of the population is addicted to drugs.

Nope. That's not the problem.