Does the rain come down from the cloud?


eanassir
#151
Why God made some of the Quran revelations ambiguous:

The Arab were eloquent in language and poetry.
Moreover they were, and still they are, clever in solving puzzles which they use in a way of saying things that the stranger cannot understand, but they among themselves do know.
Two examples here are worthy of mentioning:
At the present time: In the revolution of 1920 in Iraq, the English imprisoned Shaikh Sha'lan who was one of the leaders of that revolution; then his relatives came to visit him in the prison; the spies of the English were present with them, so Shaikh Sha'lan said to his relatives: Of necessity, I want 10 liras (: gold coins); the spies did not understand; they thought he wanted 10 gold coins, but his relatives understood that he means: I want 10 strong and brave men who will be enough to liberate me from the prison. This was what happened the next day, and 10 men came and freed him.

From the past: One of the Arab, who was a hero, but became old, and traveled with two servants; the servants plotted to kill him and say to his family: he died during the journey and we buried him. This man knew about their plot; so he told them a poetry: to go to his two daughters and say to them:
"My daughters, your father!"

When they killed him, they went to his daughters and said: your fathers requested that we say to you: "My daughters, your father!"
The daughters understood that this poetry needed some completion:
"My daughters, your father!" " has been murdered; take revenge of these men"

Therefore, the Quran was revealed in their language and included their custom of the eloquence and the puzzle.
God challenged them to do like the Quran and bring about something similar to it in the eloquence or to solve the puzzles included in it; because Mohammed was one of them, so if they claim that he compiled the Quran, then either bring about something similar to it in eloquence or solve its puzzles. But they could not do that.

Then God declared that He will explain it to them in the future, as in the Quran 75: 19
ثُمَّ إِنَّ عَلَيْنَا بَيَانَهُ
The explanation: (Then, [after a long time] We have to explain it [to people.])

eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
 
ShintoMale
#152
Rain is a type of precipitation, a product of the condensation of atmospheric water vapor that is released on the Earth's surface. It forms when separate drops of water fall to the Earth from clouds. Not all rain reaches the surface; some of it evaporates while falling through dry air. When none of it reaches the ground, it is called virga, a phenomenon often seen in hot, dry desert regions. The METAR code for rain is RA.



get that you science illiterate? rain can only come from clouds and all the Quran verses in the world cannot change that fact










 
ShintoMale
#153





 
Lester
#154
ooh that last one is cool
 
eanassir
#155
Quote: Originally Posted by ShintoMaleView Post

Rain is a type of precipitation, a product of the condensation of atmospheric water vapor that is released on the Earth's surface. It forms when separate drops of water fall to the Earth from clouds. Not all rain reaches the surface; some of it evaporates while falling through dry air. When none of it reaches the ground, it is called virga, a phenomenon often seen in hot, dry desert regions. The METAR code for rain is RA.


get that you science illiterate? rain can only come from clouds and all the Quran verses in the world cannot change that fact

As it has been explained in the past replies:

The rain comes from within or through the cloud; the cloud and the hot wind will be essential for the precipitation of the rain, without which the rain process will not be possible.

This is in the Quran 7: 57
وَهُوَ الَّذِي يُرْسِلُ الرِّيَاحَ بُشْرًا بَيْنَ يَدَيْ رَحْمَتِهِ حَتَّى إِذَا أَقَلَّتْ سَحَابًا ثِقَالاً سُقْنَاهُ لِبَلَدٍ مَّيِّتٍ فَأَنزَلْنَا بِهِ الْمَاء فَأَخْرَجْنَا بِهِ مِن كُلِّ الثَّمَرَاتِ ...الخ
The explanation:
(It is He Who looses the winds bearing good-tidings before [,or heralding, the rain which is] His mercy; till, when they are charged with the heavy cloud, We drive it to a dead land*, and therewith send down [, from the sky, rain] water, and bring forth therewith all the fruits …etc.)

The interpretation:
[* i.e. a land having no plant.]
>> ( and therewith send down [, from the sky, rain] water); it means: and, by means of the wind, We make the fall down of water; i.e. because of it; for it is a hot wind which melts away some of that snow scattered high in the sky; so that it falls down as rain.

The rain

There are two current theories for the rain process: Bergeron theory: ice crystal melting, and the coalescence of the water droplets; both explanations do not contradict the mediation of the hot wind and the cloud in precipitating the rain. On the contrary, what the interpreter of the Quran said gives a better and more correct explanation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precipitation_(meteorology)#Condensation

Generally speaking, in the Quran, the water comes down from the sky, and from through or within the cloud. The word 'rain' is used for the raining of stones of meteorites on the disbelieving people.

It is like His saying – be exalted – in the Quran 15: 74 about Lot's people:
فَجَعَلْنَا عَالِيَهَا سَافِلَهَا وَأَمْطَرْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ حِجَارَةً مِّن سِجِّيلٍ
The explanation: (And We made [by the earthquake] its uppermost parts lowermost [: their building collapsed on them and they were buried under the wreck], and rained down upon them the sedimentary stones of 'sijjiel')

Also like His saying in the Quran 26: 173
وَأَمْطَرْنَا عَلَيْهِم مَّطَرًا فَسَاء مَطَرُ الْمُنذَرِينَ
The explanation: (And We rained on them a rain [of stones]; and evil was the rain of them that were warned [by Lot.] )

The rain in the Quran is generally mentioned as:
water coming down from the sky,
the mercy of God
and the help for their urgent need of the rain water.


eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
 
ShintoMale
#156
Rain can form without winds


Rain is a type of precipitation, a product of the condensation of atmospheric water vapor that is released on the Earth's surface. It forms when separate drops of water fall to the Earth from clouds. Not all rain reaches the surface; some of it evaporates while falling through dry air. When none of it reaches the ground, it is called virga, a phenomenon often seen in hot, dry desert regions. The METAR code for rain is RA.
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Formation

Rain plays a role in the hydrologic cycle in which moisture from the oceans evaporates, condenses into drops, precipitates (falls) from the sky, and eventually returns to the ocean via rivers and streams to repeat the cycle again. The water vapor from plant respiration also contributes to the moisture in the atmosphere.

A major scientific explanation of how rain forms and falls is called the Bergeron process. More recent research points to the influence of Cloud condensation nuclei released as the result of biological processes.










 
eanassir
#157
Quote: Originally Posted by ShintoMaleView Post

Rain can form without winds

The hot wind and the cloud is essential for the rain formation; if no hot wind is there, the ice crystals will accumulate and fall down as snow; specially in cold countries like Canada and Russia in winter time; for this reason, the rain is more in spring, than winter, when the temperature in spring will be warmer.


Quote: Originally Posted by ShintoMaleView Post

More recent research points to the influence of Cloud condensation nuclei released as the result of biological processes.


This is in the Quran 15: 22

وَأَرْسَلْنَاالرِّيَاحَ لَوَاقِحَ فَأَنزَلْنَا مِنَ السَّمَاء مَاء

The explanation: (And We send forth the 'impregnating' winds, and We send down water from the sky)

The interpretation:
The wind impregnates or fertilizes the trees;
and the wind impregnates the cloud; because the wind carries some dust and smoke particles and when these collides with the snow particles scattered in the atmosphere, this will lead to warming of these snow particles causing the rain formation. [In addition, these particles will act as nuclei around which some water droplets will collect.]


Last edited by eanassir; Jun 6th, 2008 at 01:26 AM..
 
eanassir
#158
I shall answer you about all these points, by God's will.

So that you and others will know that the Quran is the word of God, and that is according to the Quran 61: 8
يُرِيدُونَ لِيُطْفِؤُوا نُورَ اللَّهِ بِأَفْوَاهِهِمْ وَاللَّهُ مُتِمُّ نُورِهِ وَلَوْ كَرِهَ الْكَافِرُونَ
The explanation:
(They desire to extinguish the light of God [: the Quran] with [the words of] their mouths, but God will complete [revealing] His light however much the unbelievers are averse.)


eanassir
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L Gilbert
#159
Gibberish.
 
eanassir
#160
Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

Gibberish.

Gilberish.
 

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