THE SCIENTIFIC GOD. /by Socratus/


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THE SCIENTIFIC GOD. /by Socratus/
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God is dead. God remains dead.
And we have killed him.
Yet his shadow still looms.
/ Friedrich Nietzsche /
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Every generation of people kills God but “his shadow still looms”
Why?
Why is there something rather than nothing?
By Robert Adler 6 November 2014
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The universe is flat and why that's important
. . .
That's because only a flat universe is likely to have come from nothing.
Everything that exists, from stars and galaxies to the light we see them by,
must have sprung from somewhere. We already know that particles spring
into existence at the quantum level, so we might expect the universe
to contain a few odds and ends. But it takes a huge amount of energy
to make all those stars and planets.
Where did the universe get all this energy?

(, . . . . . . . from NOTHING . . . .
NOTHING is ITSELF some kind of INFINITE ENERGY. )
/ Israel Socratus /

As Krauss puts it, "The laws of physics as we understand them make
it eminently plausible that our universe arose from nothing –
- no space, no time, no particles, nothing that we now know of."
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My conclusion.
If everything was created from a Nothing then this Nothing can be some
kind of God. The God can be the scientific Nothing.
Different people in different places gave to Nothing different private names.
But Nothing doesn’t have private name.
The Nothing has only one private formula.
And this private formula of Nothing is T=0K. (!)
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus
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socratus
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We are surrounded by THINGS (as outside in nature as inside in our brains)
and we don’t leave place for NOTHING and it is a pity because NOTHING
can tell us something important about THINGS.
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Murphy
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I've heard that. And that's my THING.
 
socratus
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Scientific “Relativity theory” was discovered.
Scientific “Evolution theory” was discovered.
God conception can be discovered on scientific (physics) basis.

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Quote: Originally Posted by MurphyView Post

I've heard that. And that's my THING.

I try to understand you.

If you heard the voice of NOTHING then, maybe, you realized
that a “ QUANTUM of THING ” lives in you.
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55Mercury
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I believe God and the Universe have struck a balance between something and nothing.
 
selfsame
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Friedrich Nietzsche died and went to Hell, unless he was mad or lunatic, then he would not be responsible about his words or work.

While God is the Alive Who Does not Die and will not die; he kills generations and makes others to succeed after them.

God is the All-Living, while all others die and go to God in the Next Life: the ethereal world.

So these stupid men have turned the truth upside down: it means it is obviously they that die and the generations die, while God is the All-Living who does not die.

Quran 10: 56, which means:
{He makes [from the water and dust] living [beings], and causes [living beings] to die [by various ways], and to Him you [people] shall be returned [after your death.]}

www.quran-ayat.com/retort/index.htm (external - login to view)
quran-ayat(dot)com


The death of the disbeliever means the beginning of his suffering and woes.

What brain do you have? And you decide the universe is flat or not? It is up to your puffing: will the ant think about the Pentagon and about the computer and the knowledge of Harvard university? What a silly thinking and a big self-conceit.

God created the universe from the ether.
www.quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#Ether (external - login to view)
Last edited by selfsame; Oct 13th, 2016 at 04:22 PM..
 
MHz
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That's fine and when the world shows that it is just as corrupt when Christianity is removed then perhaps the sheep will open thir eyes and see who are the real warmongers and who have always been the warmongers.

httpwwwyoutubecomwatchvtWl1wORuugk

 
socratus
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Quote: Originally Posted by 55MercuryView Post

I believe God and the Universe have struck a balance between something and nothing.

Balance:
50% of something and 50% of nothing . . . . ???
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Ludlow
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Is this the type of shyt pseudo intellectuals discuss while sitting in the cafe sipping their Perrier?
 
socratus
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Rereading: Why is there something rather than nothing?
By Robert Adler 6 November 2014

“Here, then, is how everything could have come from nothing.”

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My opinion.
a) Everything was created from a infinite Energy of Nothing: T=0K..
b) Infinite Energy - Nothing is a flat continuum.
c) Infinite Nothing is filled by so-called “ virtual particles”.
d) Infinite Nothing created these “potential virtual particles” in His own
flat image (!). From all flat images (!) the geometrical form of circle
is most perfect form: c/d=pi=3,141592 . . . . . . ..
e) “ These so-called virtual particles don't last long enough to be
observed directly, but we know they exist by their effects.”
f) By their effect the “virtual particles “ can become real quantum
particles ( E=h*f) and create not only “space and time” but everything
in the Universe.
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Israel Sadovnik Socratus
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socratus
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Who is the greatest mathematician?

Scientists discuss “ the three body problem” of motion and
GOD solved the problem of eight planets and their satellites
movement in our solar system.
Conclusion:
We still don’t grow enough to understand God and His mathematics.
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socratus
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a) The source of everything is an infinite Energy of Nothing: T=0K..
b) Infinite Energy - Nothing is a flat continuum.
c) Infinite Nothing is filled by so-called “ virtual particles”.
d) Infinite Nothing (T=0K) created these “potential virtual particles”
in “His/Her/Its” own flat image (!). From all flat images (!) the
geometrical form of circle is most perfect form: c/d=pi=3,141592 . . . . . . ..
. . . . . . . .
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‘If we were looking for something that we could conceive of
as God within the universe of the new physics, this ground state,
coherent quantum vacuum might be a good place to start.’
/ Book ‘The quantum self ’ page 208 by Danah Zohar. /
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When the next revolution rocks physics,
chances are it will be about nothing—the vacuum,
that endless infinite void.
Nothingness of Space Could Illuminate the Theory of Everything | DiscoverMagazine.com (external - login to view)
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socratus
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Why is nothing would be something?
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a) We cannot reach T=0K.
b) We cannot reach the density of “virtual particles” –E=Mc^2
c) It means it is impossible to observe them directly by scientific tools
and therefore T=0K and –E=Mc^2 are “nothing” for scientists who want
observe these parameters by tools, but after they say:
“ . . . . we know they exist by their effects.”
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The Casimir Effect (external - login to view)

So, nothing became not- nothing, nothing became something . . . . things.
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On the other hand, . . . . if observation is scientific doctrine for check the
truth of theory, then why did they accept the quark and string theories?
There are no facts of their observation; there are no facts of their effects,
there are only their mathematical interpretations, mathematical play.

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socratus
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Book: The quantum self
It might even give us some ground to speculate that
the vacuum itself (and hence the universe) is ‘conscious.
/ page 208. by Danah Zohar. /
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If we were looking for something that we could conceive
of as God within the universe of the new physics, this ground
state, coherent quantum vacuum might be a good place to start.
/ Book: ‘The quantum self ’ page 208. by Danah Zohar. /

The Danah Zohar arguments are following.
1
The vacuum is the basic, fundamental and underlying reality of which
everything in the universe – including ourselves – is an expression.
2.
Vacuum is not empty. Vacuum is full with virtual antiparticles.
These virtual energy-antiparticles are in potential conditions.
But after their process of fluctuations they appear as real particles.
3.
Futher, excitations ( fluctuations) of this coherent vacuum
condensate appear to have the same mathematics as the
excitations of our own, Frohlich-style Bose - Einstein condensate.
Understanding this might well lead us to conclude that the physics
which gives us human consciousness is one of the basic
potentialities within the quantum vacuum, the fundament of all reality.
/ Book ‘The quantum self ’ page 208. By Danah Zohar /

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danah_Zohar (external - login to view)
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My opinion.
a) Grand Creator exist in the reference frame of infinite eternal
continuum T=0K (neither time nor space . . . more correct:
neither gravity-time nor gravity-space)
b) Grand Designer created the gravity-time and gravity-space
in which we live now.
c) the problem is that Stephen Hawking and his colleagues
don’t accept the concept of the “ PHYSICAL INFINITY”.
They try to run away from “INFINITY” with all their power
and therefor they say “ Time didn’t exist before the Big Bang, so there is
no time for God to make the universe in. It’s like asking for directions
to the edge of the Earth. The Earth is a sphere. It does not have an edge,
so looking for it is a futile exercise.” - Hawking
d) in the infinite eternal continuum T=0K the Grand Designer
created the MATERIAL UNIVERSE.
e) don’t know what T=0K is scientists call it “NOTHIGNESS”
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The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex?
/ Paul Dirac /
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socratus
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Infinity, nothingness, time, elementary particles were objects
of primal perception. They were described in different ancient
books . . . for example Vedas . . . . . purusha and pracriti . . .
. . . Hermetic Principles . . .

Later these objects became objects of science.
The science has own language and these ‘old ancient things' scientists
try to describe by their language. This language is mathematical.

So, ancient books and scientific theories tried to describe one and the
same things (quantum things), infinity, nothingness-vacuum from
different points of view.
Our ancestor and modern scientists tried to understand one and the
same basis of existence and the break between them only it the way
that they have chosen.
Science can only logical (using formulas, equations, laws) explain
the ideas of ancient people.
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Even an omnipotent God could not create a square circle
or make 2 plus 3 equal five . . . because . . . His work is limited
by the laws of Physics. And as wise as every wise man
God wouldn't “make a stone so heavy He couldn't lift”.

This is the reason that we can understand Him logically.
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