Help me find Sober People

[Erin8]

Hello,
I am looking for individuals living an alcohol and drug free lifestyle and am looking for ideas on where to find these people in Edmonton. Does anyone have any ideas on sober activities in and around the city?

 

[SirJosephPorter]

That lets me out; I am a life time abstainer of non alcoholic drinks. Just kidding, but I do enjoy alcohol.

But if you find alcohol free people anywhere, it is likely to be Alberta. Religious right is strong there, and religious right does not drink alcohol (at least in public). Now here in Ontario, we represent the den of iniquity, we are not pure, Godly people like the Albertans.

 

[Liberalman]

Those mormons don't drink or smoke in Edmonton. You'd think they would drink since they all have minimum of seven wives and more than thirty-five screaming kids each.

 

[Erin8]

You're both right, there are many religious groups, however, not many of the churches I've contacted are as willing to chat as I thought they would be. It would be nice to reach these people outside of a church setting.

 

[Liberalman]

what exactly would you ask them

 

[Cannuck]

Once again tweedle dee shows how ridiculously uninformed he is.

Alcohol: by the numbers

The province of Alberta has the highest alcohol consumption per capita of any province.

 

[Erin8]

Well I started a website to help those who don't drink or do drugs find roommates. I thought religious groups would be a good place to inform people of this site that can help them. But got the cold shoulder from a few that I talked to. Some were very helpful, but there were a few that I couldn't believe worked in a church

 

[lone wolf]

Piece of advice? Don't look for clean and sober in the AA or NA crowd. Experience has taught me the greater number have traded addictions or are just making an appearance.

 

[Erin8]

That's kinda what gave me the idea for the website, then I realized that it would be useful to people who didn't drink or do drugs for various reasons (students, religious people). If people recovering from addictions aren't supported properly after treatment, ie: live in seclusion or with the wrong type of person, they definately are likely to fall back into old habbits.

 

[lone wolf]

Together, they're fine ... and very supportive of each other. Someone in recovery should never be paired with someone who has never been through the process. AA/NA is a lifestyle you have to live to understand.... Kudos to you!

 

[Erin8]

Thank you! Hopefully the site will be useful and help many people.

 

[captain morgan]

Once again tweedle dee shows how ridiculously uninformed he is.

No doubt about that. Funny though, after reading his silly comment, I went through the thread 'An Apology' and thought that it's only a matter of time (nanoseconds likely) before he gets his teat in a ringer yet again.

 

[JLM]

If you could finagle your way into an AA's meeting that would probably be your best and surest bet or maybe better just to stand outside the door until they come out.

 

[JLM]

That lets me out; I am a life time abstainer of non alcoholic drinks. Just kidding, but I do enjoy alcohol.

But if you find alcohol free people anywhere, it is likely to be Alberta. Religious right is strong there, and religious right does not drink alcohol (at least in public). Now here in Ontario, we represent the den of iniquity, we are not pure, Godly people like the Albertans.

If the number of bars/pubs in Calgary and Edmonton is any indication, I doubt if Alberta is the place.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

If the number of bars/pubs in Calgary and Edmonton is any indication, I doubt if Alberta is the place.

So what is your point, JLM? There probably are many churches in Alberta as well; religious right is very strong in Alberta. Incidentally liberalman, it is not only Mormons that abstain from smoking and drinking. All of Fundamentalist Christianity frowns on smoking and drinking. It was the Fundamentalists who were responsible for bringing in the prohibition in USA.

Fundamentalists are very strong in Alberta. I remember we discussed the proportion of Fundamentalists in different provinces a while ago (I don’t remember if it was this forum or canada.com). Somebody dug up the statistics, and percentage of fundamentalists is the highest in Alberta, higher than any other province.

So there certainly are many people in Alberta who don’t drink. JLM, if you are saying that there are many bars in Alberta, I can only conclude that while there are a large number of people in Alberta who don’t drink, the rest drink even more than average to compensate for those who don’t.

Alberta must be a rather strange province, with many abstainers and many heavy drinkers.

 

[YukonJack]

Erin8, for alcohol free existence (I say existence because it sure isn't a life), become A POOR Muslim.

Rich Muslims enjoy booze just as much as any normal person does.

 

[JLM]

So what is your point, JLM? There probably are many churches in Alberta as well; religious right is very strong in Alberta. Incidentally liberalman, it is not only Mormons that abstain from smoking and drinking. All of Fundamentalist Christianity frowns on smoking and drinking. It was the Fundamentalists who were responsible for bringing in the prohibition in USA.

Fundamentalists are very strong in Alberta. I remember we discussed the proportion of Fundamentalists in different provinces a while ago (I don’t remember if it was this forum or canada.com). Somebody dug up the statistics, and percentage of fundamentalists is the highest in Alberta, higher than any other province.

So there certainly are many people in Alberta who don’t drink. JLM, if you are saying that there are many bars in Alberta, I can only conclude that while there are a large number of people in Alberta who don’t drink, the rest drink even more than average to compensate for those who don’t.

Alberta must be a rather strange province, with many abstainers and many heavy drinkers.

How much time have you actually spent in Alberta? I've spent a total of a couple of years there between living and visiting and all my kids have lived/worked in Alberta for a total of many years. Your assertioins about Alberta are bloody ridiculous. Albertans are exactly like people from B.C. or Saskatchewan. The employment opportunities in Alberta are in very demanding fields that require strength of character- oil production, farming, ranching and these people have a no nonsense attitude toward work and like a lot of workers like their grog when the shift is done. Drinking has nothing to do with religious or political orientation- that is just plain stupid, with perhaps the exception of Mennonites or Hutterites of which the population is very small. Calgary is basically a city of fun loving people who like to socialize and have a drink or two, sure some are drunks and a few are abstainers, but your tarring them all with the same brush is just downright ignorant. So my point was that with the bars, it's unlikely you will find a booze free population.

 

[Cannuck]

it is not only Mormons that abstain from smoking and drinking.

I guess this means I don't have to buy my Mormon buddy beer when we go golfing. Of course, he still has to buy for me.

Man he's going to be ticked when he finds out he can't drink.

 

[Cannuck]

Drinking has nothing to do with religious or political orientation- that is just plain stupid, with perhaps the exception of Mennonites or Hutterites of which the population is very small.

Hutterites make the best wine.

There is four different groups (or sects) of Mennonites. Only one abstains.

 

[JLM]

Hutterites make the best wine.

There is four different groups (or sects) of Mennonites. Only one abstains.

Thanks, I wasn't certain which sects abstain from drinking I was just trying to give S.J. the benefit of the doubt. Seems to me some Mormons drink too, but maybe I'm wrong.