Edmonton the Violent

Jsan
#1
This city is going down the toilet fast. This is the second random stabbing murder of an innocent person in the last week. There are so many transients moving to this city from across Canada and it is beginning to show. In my job I have to work around allot of apartment complexes in this city and I am amazed just how there seems to be so many more rough, creepy looking guys who are moving in. My co-workers have also said the same. This city is changing and not for the good.

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjourna...68624e&k=63036
 
karrie
#2
Hmmm... I've lived in a lot of small towns, and a couple small cities. Edmonton is the largest place I've ever lived. But, it still seems pretty damn safe per capita. If you think the people here seem sketchy, go hang out in an small oilfield town full of meth head rig workers. Trust me, Edmonton seems a lot friendlier in comparison. The stabbings and rapes from the small towns just don't seem to make the news as reliably is all.
 
Jsan
#3
Why was I not surprised to discover that the psycho who knifed the poor kid on the Bus was from Edmonton? You could expand it from Edmonton the violent to Alberta the violent with that horrific attack on the family and the tenant in the basement that happened in Calgary a couple of months ago. This city and province has changed for the worse and seems to be getting more dangerous every week.
 
scratch
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by JsanView Post

Why was I not surprised to discover that the psycho who knifed the poor kid on the Bus was from Edmonton? You could expand it from Edmonton the violent to Alberta the violent with that horrific attack on the family and the tenant in the basement that happened in Calgary a couple of months ago. This city and province has changed for the worse and seems to be getting more dangerous every week.



Not wanting to beat a dead horse but what happened to the "fund", just can't remember the name, to stop this kind of thing from happening.
 
Lester
#5
Yes, I too have noticed a lot of unsavory characters lately. When I lived in Millwoods(a residential area in South Edmonton for those of you unfamiliar with the city) I could watch the crackheads checking out parked cars all night long. as well as a couple of regular dope dealers who would deliver their wares to some creep who lived in the building. I had two deadbolts installed on the walk in door and two bars installed on the patio door. I'd finally had enough and moved back out to the countryside.
 
scratch
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by LesterView Post

Yes, I too have noticed a lot of unsavory characters lately. When I lived in Millwoods(a residential area in South Edmonton for those of you unfamiliar with the city) I could watch the crackheads checking out parked cars all night long. as well as a couple of regular dope dealers who would deliver their wares to some creep who lived in the building. I had two deadbolts installed on the walk in door and two bars installed on the patio door. I'd finally had enough and moved back out to the countryside.

No offense meant to you at all. But if we keep moving these people have more room to spread to. Not a good thing. Then again the cops are not doing what they are paid to do.
 
MissAnnika
#7
oh man you kno what would be totally awesome, if i had a license to kill. lets roleplay for a minute *guy is a douche bag to me in the store, so i follow him out and kill him, in front of the police no less. they come over and i whip out my license to kill. they let me go and i tell them i'm just doing my civil duty of population control heheh* but that goes against what you were just blogging about, sorry
 
scratch
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by MissAnnikaView Post

oh man you kno what would be totally awesome, if i had a license to kill. lets roleplay for a minute *guy is a douche bag to me in the store, so i follow him out and kill him, in front of the police no less. they come over and i whip out my license to kill. they let me go and i tell them i'm just doing my civil duty of population control heheh* but that goes against what you were just blogging about, sorry


Niki,

I see your point, but the killing has to stop. We predate each other every ten seconds. We are worse than animals in the wild . They kill to eat. We kill for.....I do not know!
 
MissAnnika
#9
i'm just kidding, the only way i'd ever kill someone was in defense to protect my own life
 
MissAnnika
#10
its hard to tell when someone is being serious or not over the internet, mayb i shouldnt joke so much, i tend to have a crude humor about me
 
scratch
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by MissAnnikaView Post

i'm just kidding, the only way i'd ever kill someone was in defense to protect my own life


Niki,

Our world is sick and I really do not think that you would only in self-defense.
But I will take your word for it.
 
MissAnnika
#12
our world might be sick, but that doesnt mean i am. just my humor is, but thats only bcuz i feel laughter is the best medicine, i mean if some1 is sick and dying, if you can make them laugh, for that one moment they forget about their pain.
but i see where your coming from, this IS a sick world so its only natural to assume the worst in people, especially ones you dont kno
 
scratch
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by MissAnnikaView Post

our world might be sick, but that doesnt mean i am. just my humor is, but thats only bcuz i feel laughter is the best medicine, i mean if some1 is sick and dying, if you can make them laugh, for that one moment they forget about their pain.
but i see where your coming from, this IS a sick world so its only natural to assume the worst in people, especially ones you dont kno

Niki,

At one time suspicion of another was rare, but now it is running rampant.
Too bad, world was a decent place at one time.
 
karrie
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by LesterView Post

Yes, I too have noticed a lot of unsavory characters lately. When I lived in Millwoods(a residential area in South Edmonton for those of you unfamiliar with the city) I could watch the crackheads checking out parked cars all night long. as well as a couple of regular dope dealers who would deliver their wares to some creep who lived in the building. I had two deadbolts installed on the walk in door and two bars installed on the patio door. I'd finally had enough and moved back out to the countryside.

Area must have a lot to do with it, because while my van's been rifled through a couple times, we really don't worry about our house or safety here. No locking ourselves in at night or stressing about buttoning the house down if we're out. We know the neighbors. We watch their places and they watch ours. People go walking at night and chat, pop into the back yard to see what we're up to. My two kids and four other sets of neighborhood children all run freely back and forth on our end of the block, from one house to the other, playing, with no imminent concern that someone's going to snatch them. I see such a drastically different Edmonton apparently.
 
scratch
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

Area must have a lot to do with it, because while my van's been rifled through a couple times, we really don't worry about our house or safety here. No locking ourselves in at night or stressing about buttoning the house down if we're out. We know the neighbors. We watch their places and they watch ours. People go walking at night and chat, pop into the back yard to see what we're up to. My two kids and four other sets of neighborhood children all run freely back and forth on our end of the block, from one house to the other, playing, with no imminent concern that someone's going to snatch them. I see such a drastically different Edmonton apparently.


If you read about it, it's one person's opinion. If you do not see it occurring in your place of residence and you are close to your neighbours and you watch each other's homes, you've gotten it right.
I applaud you and your man and those around you.
Should be an example for everyone.
 
dj03
#16
With the gang war happening in Calgary, someone seems to get knocked off every other week.
 
L Gilbert
#17
Cities are such nice places.
hehe Gotta love rural areas in BC. Not much for violent crimes here. In 20 years the only thing that's gone missing from our home has been a box of Marsbars and we are pretty sure in which neighborhood kid snitched it. Left money on the table, tools in the carport and snitched the Marsbars. (And no, Prax, we aren't going to shoot the kid, although if someone gave him a nice dose of salt in his butt one day for his antics, it might do some good).
He seems also to like breaking vehicle windows at another neighbor's place. Makes me wonder if he didn't inherit his father's sociopathic tendencies (he lives with his mother).
Anyway, all things considered the worst we have around here is a little theft and vandalism now & then.
 
shadowshiv
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by scratchView Post

No offense meant to you at all. But if we keep moving these people have more room to spread to. Not a good thing. Then again the cops are not doing what they are paid to do.

When the police arrest people and the judges sentence them to either a very short stint in jail or decide to not give them any jail time at all, how can that be blamed on the police? You've got car thieves that have been arrested numerous times(deemed level 5 offenders, I believe) out on the streets to do it again just because they are "too young" to understand right from wrong(according to the Youth Justice Act). Until changes are made in the justice system itself, the hands of the police are tied pretty tight.
 
L Gilbert
#19
Look into the story behind the father that killed his kids in Merritt BC. The kids deaths could have been prevented, but the police who had the idiot in custody once for another violence related incident let him go for some reason and then forgot about him or ignored him.
My point is that the police aren't without blame for some things.
 
talloola
#20
I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but, until something happens in your neighbourhood,
rural, or small town, it is a nice cozy feeling, I've been there. Grew up in New westminster, which, at that time, was a great small city. Great neighbourhoods, and
a very clean atmosphere, until, one night, my mother was mugged walking home, and
not longer after that, I was stopped about 9 at night, and threatened, till I screamed the
guys ears off, and he ran away, but that ended the 'cozy' feeling we all had, right then and
there.
I have heard many times on the news, when people were interviewed after a horrendous happening, "We have never had anything like this happen here, we never lock our doors, and
we all trust one another", well, that's great, until 'that one day'.
Hope nothing bad every happens to any of you, ever.
 
scratch
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by talloolaView Post

I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but, until something happens in your neighbourhood,
rural, or small town, it is a nice cozy feeling, I've been there. Grew up in New westminster, which, at that time, was a great small city. Great neighbourhoods, and
a very clean atmosphere, until, one night, my mother was mugged walking home, and
not longer after that, I was stopped about 9 at night, and threatened, till I screamed the
guys ears off, and he ran away, but that ended the 'cozy' feeling we all had, right then and
there.
I have heard many times on the news, when people were interviewed after a horrendous happening, "We have never had anything like this happen here, we never lock our doors, and
we all trust one another", well, that's great, until 'that one day'.
Hope nothing bad every happens to any of you, ever.

Not yet, but all the signs are out there and it will happen, today, tomorrow, who knows. Not a great way to live. I remember the days of unlocked doors, no alarm systems and motion sensors.
.....so sad, but true.
 
karrie
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by talloolaView Post

I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but, until something happens in your neighbourhood,
rural, or small town, it is a nice cozy feeling, I've been there. Grew up in New westminster, which, at that time, was a great small city. Great neighbourhoods, and
a very clean atmosphere, until, one night, my mother was mugged walking home, and
not longer after that, I was stopped about 9 at night, and threatened, till I screamed the
guys ears off, and he ran away, but that ended the 'cozy' feeling we all had, right then and
there.
I have heard many times on the news, when people were interviewed after a horrendous happening, "We have never had anything like this happen here, we never lock our doors, and
we all trust one another", well, that's great, until 'that one day'.
Hope nothing bad every happens to any of you, ever.

I hear what you're saying talloola. But, at the same time... locking your doors wouldn't have prevented either one of those things. Locking doors never prevented my in-laws home from being robbed. Locking doors hasn't prevented many violent invasions in many cities, ours included.

But, looking at the overall crime rate, and not focusing on the individual instances makes a difference. Looking at your individual neighborhood is also something you need to consider.

If someone decides to randomly target you, there's not a lot you can do about it. Living in fear isn't really an option for me, just based on the off chance that someone might decide to do something.
 
lone wolf
#23
They still call it Toronto the Good ... I wonder if that's with or without the Jane-Finch corridor....
 
Kreskin
#24
It doesn't seem to matter where you are, violence isn't far away. About 7 years ago a guy in a little community called Black Creek, just south of Campbell River, killed his entire family with an axe. A couple of years ago a guy up at the north end of the island burned his house down killing his entire family. Small communities with horribly violent crimes.
 
scratch
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

It doesn't seem to matter where you are, violence isn't far away. About 7 years ago a guy in a little community called Black Creek, just south of Campbell River, killed his entire family with an axe. A couple of years ago a guy up at the north end of the island burned his house down killing his entire family. Small communities with horribly violent crimes.



All this violence is now omni-present and little has been done to stop it.
The real question is......how did it get to this point?
 
talloola
#26
Maybe I have watched too much news/tv,newspapers, over the years, but I lock my doors
all the time, and It's because of all the drug problems, as I don't trust any of them, they
are prowling around 24 hours a day, , looking for money for their drugs, it's
not like being afraid of bogey men, other scary things, these people are real, and desperate, and they would robb their own mothers to get what they 'need', well folks,
they can try my door, it'll be locked, so they can go next door, maybe their's is open.

The newspapers list all of the break ins, and there is always a pretty good list of streets that have been vandalized, so it seems kind of 'dumb' for me to leave my door unlocked and make it real convenient for them.

Drug addicts get up every day, and go to work robbing others, just like we go to work to
earn our daily bread. I would as soon put a bullet between their eyes as look at them,
so, they are 'not' coming into my house.

Someone walked into my next door neighbours house one night, and took all of his electronic equipment, out the back slider, and they were gone.
I was right next door, doing, whatever, never heard a thing, but my door was locked.

I am not afraid, but I am 'aware', and it is no different for me to be in my house with a locked door, or unlocked door, I don't walk around in fear, I just feel more secure.
I have a big chocolate lab too, and he is a good deterent, and people who case
neighbourhoods, usually know where the dogs are, and would sooner bother someone
without a dog.

My daughters never lock their doors, I don't really understand that, they work hard for what they have, buy nice things, then leave their houses open for any 'scum bag' that might decide to walk off with everything.

The real sickheads, like the guy on the bus, or the shooter of the swimmers, no one can
predict when those kinds will surface, they are random and wierd and far between,
no one can stop them.
 
MissAnnika
#27
i always lock my doors too because i dont trust anyone
 
scratch
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by MissAnnikaView Post

i always lock my doors too because i dont trust anyone



Niki,

Oh, to be your age again.
But you missed out on decent hard working responsible people and authorities that did the jobs they were paid to do and most of the time they were your neighbours or friends.......it's a long story.

cyl
 
Nuggler
#29
Quoting Taloola:
"" Drug addicts get up every day, and go to work robbing others, just like we go to work to
earn our daily bread. I would as soon put a bullet between their eyes as look at them,
so, they are 'not' coming into my house.

Someone walked into my next door neighbours house one night, and took all of his electronic equipment, out the back slider, and they were gone.
I was right next door, doing, whatever, never heard a thing, but my door was locked.

I am not afraid, but I am 'aware', and it is no different for me to be in my house with a locked door, or unlocked door, I don't walk around in fear, I just feel more secure""
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I'm with you on these points, Taloola. In Backwater Ont., we do have a drug "problem". Not as violent (so far) as in the cities, but they are out there and they do roam.

So, a locked door means your insurance company will pay for your stolen "stuff". if you're not home.

Our dog means we'll hear anyone coming in the drive or over the lawn.

My neigbour has a sign on his door saying his house is protected by (fill in the blank), 3 nights a week...........YOUR GUESS!....................another option

"our" house is protected by extreme poverty....

 
MissAnnika
#30
still.....if only i had that license to kill. i'd totally be a ninja! silent but deadly oh yea!
 

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